did you read the thread? I know BBG agreed with you, but he's a PP rep and has a vested interest in only the positives.
glub's test levels weren't the main reason he stopped the AM, it was his elevated liver values and high BP (higher than on actual gear). What he got were a bunch of excuses and statements about how it could never be the product or the dose, but was blamed on how uncontrolled the experiment was.
He was already told his test levels wouldn't show an increase from the AM on a blood test, so there is no way to know if their DHEA claims are bullshit or not. Actually, after thinking about it, thats really quite a clever way to sell a product. Tell people a blood test won't show an increase of test levels, just say DHEA 'should' give you an equivalent of 428mg of injectable test. Its almost fool proof.
Its just unfortunate these Andro logs either make excuses for negatives or just disregard them completely. Again, not that it matters for the market they are seeking (young guys who don't know shit or are too stupid to realize any possible negatives are possible because they got a 'fat discount'), but it should be addressed without an excuse.
Alright, I have stayed as neutral as possible, but you annoy the living fuck out of me.
I gave glubgawd my well wishes, and in this case, the cycle did not work out for him. However, I am very much in agreement over the fact that there were too many changes to make this something that the product should be judged upon.
First off, plain and simple, he took 2.5 times the dosage of the product, this has already been addressed multiple times. But surely, this had no effect.
Secondly, he had a 4-6k (or whatever the amount was) increase in calories for this cycle. Please do not give me any of that "well he is a pro athlete" bullshit. I get that, a pro athlete will require large amounts of calories, but anytime you cause an increase in calories by that much, if you don't expect a fluctuation in blood test results, you are kidding yourself. I bet you are also going to tell me those were clean calories, right? But surely, this had no effect
Glub was recently coming off of a test/tren cycle? You do realize that tren is one of the harshest hormonal injections side wise? And from my understanding, it wasn't too long ago that this cycle ended? We also didn't discuss (at my recollection) any ancillaries he was running through that cycle (i.e. suicidal AIs, etc.) But surely, this had no effect.
Also he mentioned that he usually does a blast and cruise. However he decided to drop all injections 2 DAYS PRIOR to starting this cycle, and this is someone who admits to having low T. Again, this must have had no effect right?
If you are not catching a trend here, you really need to give up.
Look, I have absolutely nothing against Glubgawd. The guy is a professional athlete and stand up member of the boards. Nothing but respect. However, this log's results were not going to portray any form of accuracy towards this product. You can base your thoughts on this cycle, but you had already made up your mind before it started, so it really doesn't matter.
As for your comment about our fool-proof plan on bio-equivalency, you do realize that these claims COULD be tested right? We didn't say something like "they turn orange in the system for a split second," we stated an equivalency that could be tested with a bio assay.
Shit, I am halfway considering PCTing out of my cycle, just so I can do bloodwork pre/and one week into a cycle to show that this wouldn't be the norm.
For the record, I haven't said shit or taken a side on this until you decided to use this thread as some sort of punching bag. Glub himself hasn't even been in here anymore.
