First cycle of Tren, looking to see if i did my homework right.

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itie49

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Hey guys,
I'm looking to add Tren-E to my next cycle. I have 3 cycles under my belt, the last one looked something like this;
Week 1-4, Dbol 50mg ED
Week 1-10, Test-E 500mg weekly
Week 12-15, Clomid 300/100/50/50/50

I'm looking to order my gear for my next cycle and I just wanted to run it past some of the guys that know better. Just in case there is something I missed.

Week 1-4, Dbol 50mg ED
Week 1-10, Tren-E 300mg weekly
Week 1-12, Test-E 500mg weekly
Week 1-13, HCG 500mcg weekly
Week 14-17, Clomid 300/100/50/50/50

I'm not a sure how I should inject the HCG, is IM preferred over Sub-Q. If so would there be any issues injecting HCG and my gear at the same time. Also I'm looking to pick up bromocriptine to combat any prolactin induced gyno, and no I don't know if I'll have prolactin side effects. It just gives me a warm and fuzzy to have the stuff on hand just in case. My question about bromocriptine is dosage and for how long I should take it.

Any and all advice would be appreciated.
 
Cycle looks good man. Hcg can be IM but most do sub q with insulin pins. It's better to use insulin pins so you can measure it accurately. You need to get bacteriostatic water to reconstitute the hcg. Hcg is dosed in IU's not mcg

I'm not sure on the bromo dosage so maybe others can help.

You need to have an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) on hand for estro sides. Dbol converts estro rapidly, hcg will spike estro and test will convert estro so an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) should be on hand.
Aromisin is preferred at 12.5mg eod and move to ED if needed
Or adex at .5mg.
 
Thanks man, I'm gonna have to look into getting some basteriostatic water and insulin pins. Any recommendations of size and volume of the pins.

I never heard about HCG spiking estro, but that doesn't mean anything. Taking an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) like Aromisin along with the cycle does sound like good advice though. :)
 
On tren, look to have a bottle of Prami (cader) from RUI or any company on hand and research the dosage, Juicy has a good thread on it.
 
Thanks for the RUI recommendation, never really paid attention to the ads on most forums(junk). But did alittle digging around and came up with .25-.5ml of Prami ED. Plus from what i've read, i've only heard good things about RUI and thier products.
 
itie49 said:
Thanks for the RUI recommendation, never really paid attention to the ads on most forums(junk). But did alittle digging around and came up with .25-.5ml of Prami ED. Plus from what i've read, i've only heard good things about RUI and thier products.
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anytime bro, thats what we are here for.
 
still pumping said:
User why before bedtime only?
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most people have side effects from taking it early,they get sleepy,some get naseua etc,but most take it at night and have no problems,im going to start using it myself,but only at night,read to many guys on here with some sides if taken duriing the day
 
itie49 said:
Thanks for the RUI recommendation, never really paid attention to the ads on most forums(junk). But did alittle digging around and came up with .25-.5ml of Prami ED. Plus from what i've read, i've only heard good things about RUI and thier products.
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dont start at .5...start at .25mg/every night.

.5mg is alot to start with

also a tip on your cycle...no reason to not to run your tren e for 12 weeks along with your test..pct will still start at the same time.
 
With this cycle I would really look at running your hcg at 500iu 2x a week - then blasting the last two weeks prior to your pct - you want to stop hcg 4 days before starting your SERM.

You can follow the advise on blasting from this thread.
http://www.steroidology.com/forum/anabolic-steroid-forum/595482-standard-pcts.html

Here's what you'll need for each vial of 5000iu of hcg - and just like everyone says - other than the hcg - you can get all this from RUI.

1) 5,000iu hcg
2) 10ml Bacteriostatic water (bac water)
3) 10ml mixing vial
4) slin pins - or 29g syringe

I'll pm you an easy to follow video on how to mix your hcg.

Make sure you follow the advise with the prami - start low (before bed) and then work your way up.

Great job doing your homework. :)
 
So take Prami before bed and start out at .25mg/every night. But is there any reason to bumb it up to .5mg if I'm not getting any gyno sides from the tren or it just a good idea.

Cobra Strike
About running tren for 10 weeks not 12 weeks is 2 part; 1: everything i've read recommends stopping the tren 2 weeks early and run just test. 2: with my source of gear, i can only get it in 10ml at 150mg/ml. and with the math done it comes out to right around 10week with 2 10ml. I guess i could save the rest of the 3rd bottle for a later cycle but i didnt think that far ahead.

Repo
Thanks for the video link and info about HCG, had no idea that i would need mixing vials. I've got a few more orders to place now.
 
itie49 said:
So take Prami before bed and start out at .25mg/every night. But is there any reason to bumb it up to .5mg if I'm not getting any gyno sides from the tren or it just a good idea.

Cobra Strike
About running tren for 10 weeks not 12 weeks is 2 part; 1: everything i've read recommends stopping the tren 2 weeks early and run just test. 2: with my source of gear, i can only get it in 10ml at 150mg/ml. and with the math done it comes out to right around 10week with 2 10ml. I guess i could save the rest of the 3rd bottle for a later cycle but i didnt think that far ahead.
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itie49 said:
ya there would be no reason to bump it up if you werent getting gyno...you actually dont have to start it until you notice signs of gyno as well

as far as the tren goes...10 weeks is ok but the thing is that it wont start kicking in till around week four and that only gives you six weeks of great gym time and growth...around week 10 when my blood levels are stable and full of test and tren is when I start gettin my best pumps and heaviest weight but since this is your first you will be fine...as far as the 2 weeks goes...thats incorrect with tren. That rule is based on esters....so your running test and tren and they both have the enanthate ester which means they both cleave at the same rate which means that they both will be out of your system about the same time...now for example if you were running deca with test e then you would quit 2 weeks in advance because the half life of deca is 21 days approx and test e is 10...so you stop the deca 2 weeks in advance so both esters are cleaved by the time you start pct
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Hcg will help maintain size and function of the testes, but it's only natural that with exogenous test should they shrink.

Hcg works by mimicking LH, suppressing the pituitary, therefore for recovery it is best not to use Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) during post cycle therapy (pct), and use a test taper protocol.

I haven't seen any evidence that hcg, while on cycle, is a necessary component to recovery after cycle.
 
thetruepitbull said:
hcg will help maintain size and function of the testes, but it's only natural that with exogenous test should they shrink.

Hcg works by mimicking lh, suppressing the pituitary, therefore for recovery it is best not to use Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) during post cycle therapy (pct), and use a test taper protocol.

I haven't seen any evidence that hcg, while on cycle, is a necessary component to recovery after cycle.
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wow
 
Ok, thanks for that comment.

It's awesome to know someone who is so educated, blast away like that at me.

Fine then, prove your point that it is necessary.
 
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