First Cycle: Test Only.. but how much?

[Got Fina?]

Honestly everybody is different so i would go with a low dose see how it hits him..

I know for me my first cycle was 100/mg a week, for 10 weeks. Ate like a mofo and went from 163 to 205 in 2 1/2 months that i was on...

Test hits me really hard thats why i stay away from it. It makes me retain tooo much water....

 

[slobberknocker]

If I had it to do over again, I would have done a gram of test with liquidex.

 

[slobberknocker]

bump since no one flamed me yet

 

[rock0]

I would definitely go btwn. 500-750 EW

 

[DTOX]

Yeah, but you guys have already used Test so you know how your body reacts to it.

Given the studies done, I think everyone would agree that 400mg-600mg/wk of Test is a good first cycle with very little chance of serious side effects (including gyno).

I'm guessing that once you go above that though that *some* people would start experiencing insomnia, mania, gyno, etc.

 

[JRfromTN]

good post

 

[yomama]

yep , solid and simple , but dont forget post cycle therapy clomidor nolvadex starting 2 weeks after last injection

If you didnt use so much you wouldnt need nolva or clomid. I could be wrong. Arnie never used anti's and he never looked like he had water retention problems, maybe he used "enough" not too much?

 

[Texas Ranger]

If you didnt use so much you wouldnt need nolva or clomid. I could be wrong. Arnie never used anti's and he never looked like he had water retention problems, maybe he used "enough" not too much?

Bro, you're are wrong!! It has nothing to do with using "too much".

 

[barracuda25]

how abt @ 165lbs how much test is needed?

 

[tyhigs]

I recommend tren with cialis or viagra for when you want to have sex! Now you can flame away. But read my threads and you will see why I feel this way!

 

[quebecbulk1]

no offense bro but your more at 24-25% bf, its funny how we always think we are lower than we really are....trust me on this one most guys compete at 4.5-5% and thats the truth.

if i were you id clean up the diet and it cardio hard before stating this cycle, as you risk adding way more estrogenic fat by doing a test cycle, even if you have anti es...

my 2 cents

 

[weussi]

500mg - 1500 mg !!! next time when i run test i do it 1250 mg !!!

 

[StoneColdNTO]

500mg - 1500 mg !!! next time when i run test i do it 1250 mg !!!

Are you fuckin' serious.....???

1500mg for a FIRST cycle................give us all a break !!

 

[asianlifter808]

I would also recommend 400-500mgs./week, two inj. per week. Mon./Thurs. I would go with Enan. or Cyp. Also don't forget clomid, nolvadex, hcg post cycle therapy.

Hey whose that in your avatar?

 

[Gel]

no offense bro but your more at 24-25% bf, its funny how we always think we are lower than we really are....trust me on this one most guys compete at 4.5-5% and thats the truth.

if i were you id clean up the diet and it cardio hard before stating this cycle, as you risk adding way more estrogenic fat by doing a test cycle, even if you have anti es...

my 2 cents

I agree, I'm 20.4% bf myself (and yes my BMI says I'm obese but you wouldn't think it to look at it).

Nice Traps BTW

 

[Justusgreen]

BMI = bullshit! Unless you're like Kate Moss it isn't reliable. I did it once and it told me to consult a physician and that I was at risk for all kinds of diseases. At that time I was 6'4" 270lbs, with 23%bf, and I had just lost 40lbs....lol.

Anyways, The Dawg bros and Stonecold are right on the money. I am currently in week 2 , 500mgs of test cyp for 12 weeks. Besides having boners all the time and great increases in strength, there's not much good about it...j/k it's absolutley amazing Peace!

 

[WrathofAchilles]

hey man, just started my first cycle about 2 weeks ago, i just took my first shot for the 3rd week.
My cycle is sust.500mg a week, divided over eod injections. I tried both, i endedup having to skip a couple of injections 2nd week, i cannot explain to you the difference.
I became sluggish, my crazy ass sex drive dissipated like sand through fingers, and i just didnt feel bang on. I hit my injections again correctly on the weekend, and injected today, and I am feeling a shit ton better.
The first week I had my Sustanon (sust) flu, and by the start of the 2nd week i felt like the bomb, skipping the eod injections made me feel like i was back on the flu, just with more bloat, and i have been taking .25 l-dex eod...
Anyway, i feel that honestly the every other day injections are better, i am waaaaaaaaaay more horny, i get into the gym and I am essentially growling under my breath because i wanna push weight so bad...
Thats just my experience with it tho...just thought i would let you know..

 

[Ozzy27]

Guys, Sustanon/Omnadren works like a single ester with a half-life of 7 days similiar to Enanthate. Andy13, proved this a while back and had a graph to support it on here or Elite. Anyway, TOO MANY guys get way TOO technical for a First Cycle. Test Only is the way to go for most. Use whatever is cheapest. Omnadren, Sustanon, Enanthate, Cypionate, whatever! Inject! Train! Eat! Rest! Grow! It REALLY is just that SIMPLE.....

You need to find this thread , because I don't see how Sus is anything like Enanthate or Cyp. etc.
One of the reasons Sus is popular is because of it's 4 esters , atleast this is why I like it. The Pheylprop and Prop are kicking in within 7-10 days , the deconate and isocaproate kick in later.
Please find the thread to back your theory up.

Thanks

Peace Oz

 

[hammer53]

75-100 mg prop eod... faster & better results IMO, shorter half life so if sides are too much you dont have to wait 2 weeks to discontinue and begin treating pct, and the eod shots gives you plently of injection practice!!! lol

or...maybe a longer ester like cyp or enth 2x / week @ 500mg/week... would probably be easier for those who a freaked out about eod injections

 

[redman9]

500mg a week twice a week at 250mg