Get ready to flame me. did "dumb thing" that is working out great

jstarr37

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I read an article on this board by a guy who claimed that doses over 2g was where the magic happened. I was about ten weeks into a 20 week cycle (5th) with 750mg test and 600mg deca. (shot 3 wk 250/200 per dose) test testprim (200 mg test e 50 mg prop)

I was getting stronger kinda slowly and i was having mood swings (slight) and my sex drive was outta control..not is a good way.

I dumped the deca and went to a regime of 5 shots per week of testoprim 250 + tren A 100, 2 days a week tren 100 only and guess what.

I started to gain strength again and the mood swings went away and the sex drive went from crazy to enjoyably high.

I am 47 247lbs 6 years of training, bench 365, squat 405, deads 475. also the only side effects ive ever gotten from gear is slight skin oiliness. (except for the emotional sides i had with this last cycle before i changed my dose regime)

Maybe it is better because my blood levels are more even?

And please if you get sides or you've only done a low dose cycle or to please don't go out an nail yourself with this kinda dose. I have gone up to 1.3g of gear a week before and been fine. i have been very fortunate as far as sides go my whole juicing life.
 
flame on .
your doing 2 grams of gear and 250 pounds and you bench 365 / squat 405 / pull 475 .

my former workout partner beat you at all 3 lifts at 40 years old and 160 pounds NATURAL

my son pulled 525 at 15 and 200 pounds NATURAL


if you need 2 grams of gear to attain those numbers there is a serious hole in either your training , diet , or rest.

posting dribble like this just encourages newbies to copy you and its a piss poor idea.
 
flame on .
your doing 2 grams of gear and 250 pounds and you bench 365 / squat 405 / pull 475 .

my former workout partner beat you at all 3 lifts at 40 years old and 160 pounds NATURAL

my son pulled 525 at 15 and 200 pounds NATURAL


if you need 2 grams of gear to attain those numbers there is a serious hole in either your training , diet , or rest.

posting dribble like this just encourages newbies to copy you and its a piss poor idea.

I agree with DAWG.

I am 23, 2 years of training, 5'6" 185lbs sub 10% BF and I pull 500+ 4 times on deads, 355x3 on bench, and 465 x4 on squats and never done a cycle.

Something is seriously wrong with something your doing if you need all the juice to do that. I suggest fixing your diet or reevaluating your training program.
 
I am not trying to flame, but i do wanna add my 2 cents on both sides of this coin.

at 45 years old I have been running a 6 month cycle of test E @ 600-800 per week and deca at 400 per week.

bench 315x7 335 x 5 365 max right now.
squat 450
deads 505

now i do not think that is as strong as i can be yet. but i am taking into account my age and prior lifting experience and telling you that this is superhuman compared to what i was doing before gear lol. But i am not a powerlifter either. I feel that i look good and can lift some decent numbers so i am very happy.

So on his side there may be an age factor that relates to his lower numbers and as dawg said definately a training issue.

however, i can not see any reason for a dude to run that much gear who isnt probably going to be a contender for mr. olympia...and the price your paying for that much gear must be enormous. That seems as though its going to catch you in the backside soon.
 
let me clairify

im 25lbs heavy, i started lifting when i was 41, before this cycle took many months off for economic reasons. If you start younger your going to lift more period without a doubt.

If i wasn't discouraged before i am now LMAO.
 
flame on .
your doing 2 grams of gear and 250 pounds and you bench 365 / squat 405 / pull 475 .

my former workout partner beat you at all 3 lifts at 40 years old and 160 pounds NATURAL

my son pulled 525 at 15 and 200 pounds NATURAL


if you need 2 grams of gear to attain those numbers there is a serious hole in either your training , diet , or rest.

posting dribble like this just encourages newbies to copy you and its a piss poor idea.

x3 much agree with DAWG....i also have a friend that benches 500lbs and weighs only 168lbs,with bench shirt,but still,hes natural and no gear....and what you are taking is way overkill imo.....
 
im 25lbs heavy, i started lifting when i was 41, before this cycle took many months off for economic reasons. If you start younger your going to lift more period without a doubt.

If i wasn't discouraged before i am now LMAO.

why stress your health with mega doses , its not worth it at your age.
 
okay well you know i hear so much "i have a friend" and "i read on another board" and "i know somebody who" on on this board. Personally unless your a professional competitive weightlifter with training and skilled partners...if your 47benching 500lbs your not going to be lifting long.

I said right at the beginning not to do this if you get sides or are new to anabolic. The point of the post wasn't the strength gain but how even with long ester anabolic daily shots seem to make the sides i did get this cycle disappear.

I have used both tren and test before and i am aware of there efffect on my body. This is probable my last or one of my last cycles anyway because of diminishing returns.

I work in the finance industry and all i know is when people look at me the comment on my muscularity and ask me about working out. A far cry from when i started years ago. Also im not ON all the time im off alot more then on the let my body rest.

Could someone flame me who actually the same age or older who started late.

Also when i walk into on of the three or four gyms i work out at i am almost always one on the 4 or 5 strongest guys there.

Now that i have vented what im really pissed about is taking that time off because my lifts are about 50lsb light because i lost so much ground and it is SLOW coming back LOL
 
okay well you know i hear so much "i have a friend" and "i read on another board" and "i know somebody who" on on this board. Personally unless your a professional competitive weightlifter with training and skilled partners...if your 47benching 500lbs your not going to be lifting long.

I said right at the beginning not to do this if you get sides or are new to anabolic. The point of the post wasn't the strength gain but how even with long ester anabolic daily shots seem to make the sides i did get this cycle disappear.

I have used both tren and test before and i am aware of there efffect on my body. This is probable my last or one of my last cycles anyway because of diminishing returns.

I work in the finance industry and all i know is when people look at me the comment on my muscularity and ask me about working out. A far cry from when i started years ago. Also im not ON all the time im off alot more then on the let my body rest.

Could someone flame me who actually the same age or older who started late.

Also when i walk into on of the three or four gyms i work out at i am almost always one on the 4 or 5 strongest guys there.

Now that i have vented what im really pissed about is taking that time off because my lifts are about 50lsb light because i lost so much ground and it is SLOW coming back LOL

dude im 49 years old . there is NO NEED to run those doses at your age , WTF are you trying to accomplish at your age ?are you going to turn pro at football or bodybuilding , no of course your not .
run moderate dose cycles and moniter your bloodwork , its very possible you are a candidate for trt/hrt therapy , especially after running that much gear at your age.
 
Like the others, I'm in total agreement with DWAG.

I'm 41 years old and if you need 2 g a week to hit those numbers at your size, there is something really wrong.

Ok, I don't "know a guy," I am the guy - yeah that is me in the avatar taken 5 weeks ago on my 41st birthday. I'll tell you those numbers are nothing - period.

I am not typically that harsh on folks but you should have better sense at your age.
 
congrats

your the man. Im still 6 years older then you but youve go talent. On that note im off this board hasta la vista.
 
my question is how does a dumb ass like this have a rep power of 5 when obviously he has no common sense about what he is doing?
 
Well... We have found the first 47 year on the board that is acting like a 17 year old. Lets post what we want while acknowledging that nobody is going to agree with what we decided to do. Then when people give honest critique and point out that he is 47 years old and doesn't need that much gear since he is risking undue harm to himself AND that his lifts are weak for someone that is using that much gear (i.e. - Work on your strength before pumping this much gear) he sobs and says, "I'm taking my ball and going home!!!!"

Good job JStarr. I needed a good laugh today....
 
Regardless of what this guy is on an dhow much he can lift. Until some of you clowns start posting videos of "you or your friends" weighing in at 160-170lbs and then walking over and benching 400-500lbs squatting 500lbs and pulling 600lbs no one in there right mind would believe that bullshit.
 
Regardless of what this guy is on an dhow much he can lift. Until some of you clowns start posting videos of "you or your friends" weighing in at 160-170lbs and then walking over and benching 400-500lbs squatting 500lbs and pulling 600lbs no one in there right mind would believe that bullshit.


I agree some with this. I know there are ppl out there that can do this but have yet to see one at my gym or any that I've worked out at. These people are probably extremely genetically gifted and have an exceptional training program/diet etc. On that note, I agree with everyone else here. Running that much gear is not a good idea.
 
I agree some with this. I know there are ppl out there that can do this but have yet to see one at my gym or any that I've worked out at. These people are probably extremely genetically gifted and have an exceptional training program/diet etc. On that note, I agree with everyone else here. Running that much gear is not a good idea.

I concur bro about that and Im glad someone other than me notices everyones one upper shit
 
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