How about this for first cycle...

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Not totally ready yet just looking for input on 1st cycle AAS. Meaning I have some BF to lose still and get my cholesterol in line. Also a few items to acquire.

10 weeks
Test E 500mg/wk
Primo 300mg/wk (not official yet)
Proviron 25mg ED
HCG 500iu/wk
Letro (just in case)

12 weeks
Aromasin 12.5mg EOD (adjust as necessary)

PCT 4 weeks
Clomid 50mg ED
Nolva 20mg ED
 
Just do test man. If you did ethanate at 500mg a week you would see considerable gains and you will also see how your body is going to react to it.
 
Not totally ready yet just looking for input on 1st cycle AAS. Meaning I have some BF to lose still and get my cholesterol in line. Also a few items to acquire.

10 weeks
Test E 500mg/wk
Primo 300mg/wk (not official yet)
Proviron 25mg ED
HCG 500iu/wk
Letro (just in case)

12 weeks
Aromasin 12.5mg EOD (adjust as necessary)

PCT 4 weeks
Clomid 50mg ED
Nolva 20mg ED

Lose the primo,prov,letro for a 1st cycle rest looks good.
 
Also you don't need to take the aromasin until you see signs of gyno and then once you start run it all the way through pct. Also save your Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) till the end. The day after your last sho.t of test do 500iu/ed until 4 days before pct.
 
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Also you don't need to take the aromasin until you see signs of gyno and then once you start run it all the way through pct. Also save your Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) till the end. The day after your last sho.t of test do 500iu/ed until 4 days before pct.


I've been reading several different things on HCG, but I think the way you describe would simplify things a bit.
 
Just do test man. If you did ethanate at 500mg a week you would see considerable gains and you will also see how your body is going to react to it.

This^^^. People like to start with all this STUFF in their first cycle. What happens if you have a reaction to one. Your not going to know which your allergic to. Then you end up scapping your whole cycle. Play it smart. Start out slow and easy. You will see awesome gains on test only. There are guys here that still run test only after years.
 
im all for test only 1st cycles but i dont see any harm in 25 or 50 mg of proviron every day IF you have allready bought it , just make sure you stop it before pct starts.
 
im all for test only 1st cycles but i dont see any harm in 25 or 50 mg of proviron every day IF you have allready bought it , just make sure you stop it before pct starts.

again DADAWG i must ask yet another ?... would you prefer PROVIRON to Winstrol (winny) or even ANAVAR?
 
again DADAWG i must ask yet another ?... would you prefer PROVIRON to Winstrol (winny) or even ANAVAR?

winnie SUCKS imo. Anavar (var) is allright but gains are very mild . provirons kind of a bastard drug really its main benifit is freeing bound test which makes your test injections more powerfull , it has little to no effects on your gains directly . its not a proven fact but many people including myself believe it has a MILD anti estrogen effect . its also known for bumping the libido up.
 
I'd swap out the letro for aromasin, much easier on lipid profile and won't cause rebound when you stop (won't need to taper it either).

Primo is pretty expensive to be running on a first cycle, especially when you haven't gauged the effects of test, proviron, letro, or primo on yourself.
 
Yeah, I've been instructed to have the letro just in case of gyno emergency. I have aromasin, but need to get some more just in case I must increase the dosage and/or frequency due to gyno issues should they arise. The proviron is something I read about and some actually believe it can impede your gains a bit while on test, I think its a debatable topic, but the qualities it has and provides for make it an attractive addition. I actually have the test, aromasin, post cycle therapy (pct), and proviron already. When I didn't know shit, I fucked around with primo acetate and had noticeable strength increase pretty quick (again I stress, when I didn't know shit about shit). There were no side effects noted during the time I took that. I guess I will hold off on the primo tho. I've been reading a lot and researching a lot and using this forum for information as well. Dadawg, Cobra and User are very knowledgeable and experienced, so their advice is reliable. I appreciate the feedback here guys.
 
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