I am afraid of Test.

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wayner

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I ran test under dr orders for about 18 months. I was prescribed 250/week. I ran that up to 750/week with other items mixed in during that 18 month period.

I have been off of Test since Jan, and my Nuts are still suffering.


Granted I did no post cycle therapy (pct) which was stupid.

I suffered hardcore for about 9 months, and relied and thanked God for Cialis.

I never want to be shut down again.


In Conclusion, I want to run something that WILL NOT SHUT ME DOWN.

1) Winstrol (winny) - oral 4 weeks at 75mgs
2) GH at 4/day 7 on for 1 year (Very expensive option)

Any thoughts?
 
wayne and zeus said:
I ran test under dr orders for about 18 months. I was prescribed 250/week. I ran that up to 750/week with other items mixed in during that 18 month period.

I have been off of Test since Jan, and my Nuts are still suffering.


Granted I did no post cycle therapy (pct) which was stupid.

I suffered hardcore for about 9 months, and relied and thanked God for Cialis.

I never want to be shut down again.


In Conclusion, I want to run something that WILL NOT SHUT ME DOWN.

1) Winstrol (winny) - oral 4 weeks at 75mgs
2) GH at 4/day 7 on for 1 year (Very expensive option)

Any thoughts?
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Bro the Winstrol (winny) will shut you down. I say get some Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) and run it with your test or any cycle and do post cycle therapy (pct).

JohnnyB
 
wayne and zeus said:
I ran test under dr orders for about 18 months. I was prescribed 250/week. I ran that up to 750/week with other items mixed in during that 18 month period.

I have been off of Test since Jan, and my Nuts are still suffering.


Granted I did no post cycle therapy (pct) which was stupid.

I suffered hardcore for about 9 months, and relied and thanked God for Cialis.

I never want to be shut down again.


In Conclusion, I want to run something that WILL NOT SHUT ME DOWN.

1) Winstrol (winny) - oral 4 weeks at 75mgs
2) GH at 4/day 7 on for 1 year (Very expensive option)

Any thoughts?
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winnie shuts you down just as hard as test imo . even var shuts you down so if you cycle you will need post cycle therapy (pct) and with the availability of research chems and cheap prices why in the world wouldnt you run post cycle therapy (pct) .
test wasnt your problem , not running post cycle therapy (pct) was .
 
No Shit.

I had 2 bad experiences with research chems that absolutely were bullshit. Unusable product.

I will try our new service.

Running the GH is a pipe dream when I run the numbers.

Looks like the BD winnies are in the area at a good price. What ancilaries should I run throghout with Winstrol (winny) only?
 
Die$eL~Man said:
i ran Tren / Fina by itself and did not get shut down ...
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one of three things happened
1 your genetics are 1 in a trillion
2 your gear was fake
3 you did shut down but recovered fairly easily [ some peoples libido suffers worse than others on low test levels . ]
 
wayne and zeus said:
No Shit.

I had 2 bad experiences with research chems that absolutely were bullshit. Unusable product.

I will try our new service.

Running the GH is a pipe dream when I run the numbers.

Looks like the BD winnies are in the area at a good price. What ancilaries should I run throghout with Winstrol (winny) only?
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winnie doesnt aromatize so you shouldnt have any gyno or bloat issues . as info some people shed hair like crazy on winnie .
 
wayne and zeus said:
Winny with Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) might work?
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the Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) DOES NOT restore hpta . Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) prevents or restores testicle atrophy/size by artificially rasining lh . Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) is suppressive to hpta just like winnie,test,tren.etc.
 
wayne and zeus said:
Looks like the BD winnies are in the area at a good price. What ancilaries should I run throghout with Winstrol (winny) only?
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I don't post here often, but saw your post I wanted to give my $.02 Personally I wouldn't do a Winstrol (winny) only cycle, it's way to hard on the joints. Winstrol (winny) works hard on the joints and tendons depleting your body of water. If your sold on Winstrol (winny) use it with something that's good on the joints. i don't know how long your wanting to cycle, but why not:
test enth. 500mgs wk/12
eq 400mgs wk/14
winny 350mgs wk/10
Start the Winstrol (winny) your 5th wk and carry it out to end. You should be fine taking only ALA. Hit the Nolva 15 days after last shot. 40 mgs first wk. 20mgs for the next 3.5 wks and your hpta should be fine.
Just a suggestion, but like I said just my $.02. What are you expecting to get out of a Winstrol (winny) only cycle?
hope this helps some.
Z-
 
zeke34 said:
Just a suggestion, but like I said just my $.02. What are you expecting to get out of a Winstrol (winny) only cycle?

Z-
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anabolic muscle building with a little water loss.
 
wayne and zeus said:
I ran test under dr orders for about 18 months. I was prescribed 250/week. I ran that up to 750/week with other items mixed in during that 18 month period.

I have been off of Test since Jan, and my Nuts are still suffering.


Granted I did no post cycle therapy (pct) which was stupid.

I suffered hardcore for about 9 months, and relied and thanked God for Cialis.

I never want to be shut down again.


In Conclusion, I want to run something that WILL NOT SHUT ME DOWN.

1) Winstrol (winny) - oral 4 weeks at 75mgs
2) GH at 4/day 7 on for 1 year (Very expensive option)

Any thoughts?
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18 months? Wow. That's suppressing your HPTA for a long-ass time.

Were you using an online clinic for this?

If you can, I might suggest you get a blood test. Tests to run:
CBC
Metabolic Panel
Total and Free Testosterone
Estradiol (specify sensitive on this one)
LH
FSH

It might also be good to check out the DHT since you have (or had?) ED.
 
mranak said:
18 months? Wow. That's suppressing your HPTA for a long-ass time.

Were you using an online clinic for this?

If you can, I might suggest you get a blood test. Tests to run:
CBC
Metabolic Panel
Total and Free Testosterone
Estradiol (specify sensitive on this one)
LH
FSH

It might also be good to check out the DHT since you have (or had?) ED.
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It's funny you say that, as I am scheduled to run Blood either today or tommorrow. Only this time I am requesting a GH count.... hehehhehe

18 months was a long ass time, a lot of shots, but nothing even close to guys here who have ran 10 + grams of injectables/week, etc. and who's crusing doses are like 1 gram and 2 grams of Test/week.

One must make a decision -- To Take the Test or not...That is the question..

I had a Dr. who treated me for an illness. I was treated for 6 months. I was basically shut down already, he brought my low test levels to my observation, asked me some questions, and told me about the Gel.

I went online and looked up testosterone, and found all kinds of shit about it.

I went back to him knowing in the back of my mind, "I'm getting the good shit from this Dr.", and asked to be places on a weekely injection. The next week I arrived at his office, the bottle of test had arrived, he showed me the proper way to IM a inj drug, and off I went.

If I remember my T level on his scale was .92 and it should have been at least 3.0, I distinctly remember him saying "Yuo are 1/3 of where you should be"

My nuts ache with the thought of running anything that will alter them.

I guess I'm fucked. Even the co-pay on GH might be a lot and if you don't have wasting disease or the other associated problems, low GH levels are not a big deal with my Health Ins co and they will generally tell you to Fuck off and get out.
 
Die$eL~Man said:
i ran Tren / Fina by itself and did not get shut down ...
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I'm running tren for the first time this cycle. Ran test/var for the first part of the cycle, with no ball shrinkage. Implemented tren and within days I noticed great shrinkage...

Now I know you cannot judge how shut down you are based on this alone, but if it is any indication...
 
So you screwed up your post cycle therapy (pct) big time, and blame the drugs? Sheesh, you've been around long enough to know better than that.
 
Thanks for pointing out my well known errors, Sir.

I was supposed to be on for life, refused to take clomid, jumped off the test on a whim to see if I could produce endo test, and sat and waited. I took 20 mgs of Nolva/day for a couple 2 3 weeks, but in the end I blame no one but myself.

Thanks for caring, Mr. dB.

wz

Oh and I am almost fully recovered. Better everyday.
 
i am afraid of clowns. how can you trust someone who has got a smile literally painted on their face? They remind me of John Edwards.
 
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