TheWalkingDead
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Just out of curiosity, what is your Aromatase inhibitor (AI) dosage?
My Pinnacle experience
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Austinite
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Subcutaneous injections would yield slower absorption. Furthermore; doses larger than ~ 0.6ml in volume would leave hardened lumps under the skin that are quite uncomfortable to the touch. Intramuscular injections are recommended for cycling purposes, while subcutaneous is ideal for testosterone therapy patients due to smaller doses, slower absorption and less impact on estradiol.
Two weeks may be an unrealistic expectation. I have never used Pinn before, but it will be my next cycle. Put this thread, the thought that it may not be dosed correctly or dosed incorrectly out of your mind. Get your diet and workout 100% and put in a hard 2 weeks. If by then, it isn't evident, you may have a gripe.
iam trying to figure out if he has the problem with the ester or somethin as in he does not react well to the ester. but not responding to prop will be the first i heard.
take a lower dose sub q for a week and see if you feel anything as in kick in and you would be able to tell when it kicks in as long as its a decent dose or enough that it wont give you a lump or somethin. sub q allows the ester to be exposed to more esterase for longer for some reason. try it cant hurt.
also get a testoserone level bloodwork get your dht tested also.
test could be fake or you have a problem with the ester in that case your testosterone levels should come sky high and low dht.
also you said that you used geneza test cyp? what happened with that was it like injecting water also?
iam not trying to prolong anything i dont know jack about this pinnacle but it extremly importtant .that you get a bloodwork and get your total test and dht tested . for more info on this condition look up my threads on my profile.
take a lower dose sub q for a week and see if you feel anything as in kick in and you would be able to tell when it kicks in as long as its a decent dose or enough that it wont give you a lump or somethin. sub q allows the ester to be exposed to more esterase for longer for some reason. try it cant hurt.
also get a testoserone level bloodwork get your dht tested also.
test could be fake or you have a problem with the ester in that case your testosterone levels should come sky high and low dht.
also you said that you used geneza test cyp? what happened with that was it like injecting water also?
iam not trying to prolong anything i dont know jack about this pinnacle but it extremly importtant .that you get a bloodwork and get your total test and dht tested . for more info on this condition look up my threads on my profile.
I agree silly thread is silly.
Bloodwork is required to make such a post.
I paid 51$, Then literally walked into and out to get my bloods done on less than 5 minutes yesterday. Waiting 3 days before results.
No excuse not to get it done if your concerned. Would you rather wait 14 weeks like my buddy to find out his gear was fake...?
Bloodwork is required to make such a post.
I paid 51$, Then literally walked into and out to get my bloods done on less than 5 minutes yesterday. Waiting 3 days before results.
No excuse not to get it done if your concerned. Would you rather wait 14 weeks like my buddy to find out his gear was fake...?
well it will be if his levels come sky high with low dht and he feels nothing. then everyones gonna feed him bull like diet/triaining. then injecting decent dose you should have a hormonal shift you wont feel like on rec drugs but you can tell right off the bat that there is a hormonal shift going on.
but yeah get a blood work for total t and dht. and it cant hurt to inject sub q eod at 60-80mg
but yeah get a blood work for total t and dht. and it cant hurt to inject sub q eod at 60-80mg
Mike Arnold
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14 days is way to short of a time to form an opinion, especially when the person is a beginner....period. Even many intermdiates often mistake good gear for bad gear simply because they make a premature assessment. Novice steroids users don't know what to look for because they don't have enough experience with how each drug affects their own, unique body.
Like another poster said, many beginners also have unrealistic expectations. They expect to experience significant changes in muscle size, strength, sex drive, emotional state, etc...after just 2 weeks, but it rarely works that way, especially with injectables like test & nandrolone.
Like another poster said, many beginners also have unrealistic expectations. They expect to experience significant changes in muscle size, strength, sex drive, emotional state, etc...after just 2 weeks, but it rarely works that way, especially with injectables like test & nandrolone.
Teutonic
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Patience grasshopper.
I need to update my signature.
My precribed trt is 100 mg test c and bumped it to 125 every 5 days and added 75 mg deca also every 5 th day. I am very prone to achey joints and that.
I m on week 5 or 6 on hg test and pinn deca and I did 225x10 last night on incline. That s not a lot for you real strong guys but I m 200 pounds and fkn 50. I attribute my recovering from a bi pec tear 12 weeks ago where I could not bench a bar...to 3 things
1- I took 4 weeks completely OFF. I did legs and movements that did not aggravate the tear AT ALL.
2- I started back w the bar after 1 month and went up 20 pounds a workout.
3-Pinnacles deca has definately got my bodies h2o retention up and my nipples are fun to play with....and the water retention from the prog. related sides....priceless.
Time son. I have nothing to gain stroking Pinn. They don t give me shit and I don t ask. If they were crap I d speak up. I think it s just that your expecting to much.
If you want to be dissappointed less , lower your expectations.
You will fine man...and bigger stronger faster.
I need to update my signature.
My precribed trt is 100 mg test c and bumped it to 125 every 5 days and added 75 mg deca also every 5 th day. I am very prone to achey joints and that.
I m on week 5 or 6 on hg test and pinn deca and I did 225x10 last night on incline. That s not a lot for you real strong guys but I m 200 pounds and fkn 50. I attribute my recovering from a bi pec tear 12 weeks ago where I could not bench a bar...to 3 things
1- I took 4 weeks completely OFF. I did legs and movements that did not aggravate the tear AT ALL.
2- I started back w the bar after 1 month and went up 20 pounds a workout.
3-Pinnacles deca has definately got my bodies h2o retention up and my nipples are fun to play with....and the water retention from the prog. related sides....priceless.
Time son. I have nothing to gain stroking Pinn. They don t give me shit and I don t ask. If they were crap I d speak up. I think it s just that your expecting to much.
If you want to be dissappointed less , lower your expectations.
You will fine man...and bigger stronger faster.
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This is not a condition. We went around in circles in your thread yet you had nothing to prove anything about what you were saying. You never even posted blood work.
then waht is it lol. its a disease? when someone says he feels like his injecting water its not about his expecting too much lol. its fake, it has not kicked in yet, or has some other ester condition.
if his testosterone do come sky high and has low dht and free test what will your explanation be then?
i did get bloodwork eventually levels come sky high and free test and dht were lower then before.
i can understand when people say you expect too much cause when it did kick in for me for like a week i did not feel super strong and libido was lower then before,somewhat increased agression and the dose was not that high. i doubt if that would have made a difference anyway.
but right off the bat i can tell it kicked or there was some kind of elvated test hormonal shift. as in i knew there was something in that shot and not jsut water lol.
but i know were this kid is coming from it really does feels like injecting water when nothing happens i mean nothing peroid.
if his testosterone do come sky high and has low dht and free test what will your explanation be then?
i did get bloodwork eventually levels come sky high and free test and dht were lower then before.
i can understand when people say you expect too much cause when it did kick in for me for like a week i did not feel super strong and libido was lower then before,somewhat increased agression and the dose was not that high. i doubt if that would have made a difference anyway.
but right off the bat i can tell it kicked or there was some kind of elvated test hormonal shift. as in i knew there was something in that shot and not jsut water lol.
but i know were this kid is coming from it really does feels like injecting water when nothing happens i mean nothing peroid.
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Inhuman2012
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Your concern is understandable.money is hard to come by these days and no one wants to lose it! Do bloodwork that way you can see what the test prop is doing for you. You can't just go by feel! My first real bulk cycle I was sure I got ripped off then went n had bloodwork done n my total test was at 6000 ng/dl! I felt like an idiot! That source stayed good for another 6 years!
And subjecting the efficacy of a cycle, compound, or UGL based on 'feel' is silly. Blood work is proof positive, otherwise you're guessing, assuming, or trash talking. I'm not a Pinn rep or affiliated with them either, but before bashing anyone or anything why not spend the ~40$ on a blood test to confirm or deny things before making claims?
what did you cycle consist of? how long were you on it? what results did you gain as in weight and progress? you got no indication you were on test as in mental effects whats so ever besides weight gain?
Now I'm an exceptional homosexual and your squat depth judge...I just lay on the ground underneath you and you'll feel a slight prick when you hit proper depth
Inhuman2012
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You know some days I would feel strong than other days I would be like wtf this craps bogus! Lol my strength was going up but slow! I agree with what Teutonic said we expect too much! If I increase even 2 1/2 lbs in strength gain every week that's 30lb in my average cycle! I used to think I was gonna go from benching 315 to 405 in one cycle! Just not realistic! That cycle consisted of test e, test suspension, deca n dianabol! It's in the cycle logs here under test e, deca , dianabol yeaaaa ! It's was end of 2008 , beginning of 2009!