My Pinnacle experience

14 days is way to short of a time to form an opinion, especially when the person is a beginner....period. Even many intermdiates often mistake good gear for bad gear simply because they make a premature assessment. Novice steroids users don't know what to look for because they don't have enough experience with how each drug affects their own, unique body.

Like another poster said, many beginners also have unrealistic expectations. They expect to experience significant changes in muscle size, strength, sex drive, emotional state, etc...after just 2 weeks, but it rarely works that way, especially with injectables like test & nandrolone.

this post sums up exactly what I was gonna say. good post and 100% accurate.
 
i would definitely look into bloodwork... that would tell us whats really up...

pinn has a decent reputation... i havn't really heard anything bad about them...

looking forward to your update in two weeks... hopefully it will be a positive one.. 2 weeks really is too early
 
I don't get anything from prop or NPP for 4 to 6 weeks. Not everyone reacts the same and not everyone see's results around the same time. 8 weeks to see anything from long esters for me.

You seem very impatient... http://www.steroidology.com/forum/a...88-11th-day-prop-150mg-eod-not-impressed.html

Also, you're not experienced, so maybe something is missing from the equation.

Agreed same thing for me with prop and Npp. I also gained 30lbs on that cycle so gear was good.
 
guys sides differ from person to person..

for example, tren does not effect me the same way it effects others

at 50mg ed i experienced insomnia the first night and then absolutely no sides.. didn't feel invincible in the gym either... but my body composition did change and so did my strength..

its all relative to the individual
 
Strong in the gym libido through the fkn roof hungry as a mofo. Sweat smells like ammonia if I don't drink enough water. Prop was 3 to 4 weeks for me Npp took a little longer. Everyone's different.
 
What a timely thread for me. I am on a TRT dose of test Cyp and started Pinn NPP last week and have been ramping up to 120 mg EOD, today was my first day at that number. I assume it is too early to know much yet but I know I don't feel "normal" some days a little jacked up like too much coffee, and lots of sore injection sites! This EOD can be annoying. Will post more on this cycle when and if I notice more
 
There is a lot of factors but eoukdnt think the gear is garbage bro, as for me I never did like npp that much, I seemed to blow up but seemed to get a lot of pimples on npp as well, its trial and error some far good on other compounds but for me its test and tren for all cycles, love it
 
Bad thread idea. No one should post anything negative about any lab until they have accompanying blood tests. Otherwise, you're just making assumptions based on "feelings". Last two cycles I've been like "man this cycle wasn't that great or I wasn't as strong this cycle" and then I hit pct and real life natty hits me in the face and then I look and say " man that stuff was awesome" and "I was strong 6 weeks ago". It's like going to see a move all your friends say is awesome then coming out tjjnkng it was just ok bc your expectations were so high.
 
Bad thread idea. No one should post anything negative about any lab until they have accompanying blood tests. Otherwise, you're just making assumptions based on "feelings". Last two cycles I've been like "man this cycle wasn't that great or I wasn't as strong this cycle" and then I hit pct and real life natty hits me in the face and then I look and say " man that stuff was awesome" and "I was strong 6 weeks ago". It's like going to see a move all your friends say is awesome then coming out tjjnkng it was just ok bc your expectations were so high.

I disagree. If that were true then no one should post good reviews without blood work either. I think the point of the forum should be to share our experiences, what ever they are. I completely believe Shenky is being honest and he's not trying to smear anyone. Maybe his expectations are too high or maybe something else is going on, but I don't fault him for bringing it up. That said, I have run Pinn's gear and I have no complaints. I don't remember exactly, but I think I my joints were feeling their NPP in about a week, maybe sooner, so I don't know why his experience is different, but he has the right to share it without getting grief.
 
I disagree. If that were true then no one should post good reviews without blood work either. I think the point of the forum should be to share our experiences, what ever they are. I completely believe Shenky is being honest and he's not trying to smear anyone. Maybe his expectations are too high or maybe something else is going on, but I don't fault him for bringing it up. That said, I have run Pinn's gear and I have no complaints. I don't remember exactly, but I think I my joints were feeling their NPP in about a week, maybe sooner, so I don't know why his experience is different, but he has the right to share it without getting grief.

I see what you are saying, but dont know if I agree. If someone came up to me and said, "nice squats bro" you say thanks, and move on because it is assumed that everything you are doing is right. If someone said "Your squat is complete shit", they better have reasoning behind it besides that they dont think it is working personally.

Not an attack on the OP. I used PINN a couple years back and everything was good to go aside from some slight PIP, but that is to be expected. Everyone is different. Give it some time.
 
I see what you are saying, but dont know if I agree. If someone came up to me and said, "nice squats bro" you say thanks, and move on because it is assumed that everything you are doing is right. If someone said "Your squat is complete shit", they better have reasoning behind it besides that they dont think it is working personally.

Not an attack on the OP. I used PINN a couple years back and everything was good to go aside from some slight PIP, but that is to be expected. Everyone is different. Give it some time.

Same reasoning can be used for your sexy squats: if they're good, you should have a reason why they are good.
 
Fashionable update: Today is about the week 3 dot, and I've still reaped no perceived benefits from Pinnacle's NPP, dosed at 150mg eod. In 7 days, I am trashing it, and cutting my losses, granted nothing changes. In either case, I'll update with this forum. As far as the 'you have never tried NPP so you naturally don't even know what to look for, so you shouldnt go off making a review', the 'expectations too high' and so on, here's my take on it:

As far as I'm concerned, I'm doing the AAS community a favor by throwing in my experience. If it's a frivolous review that holds no value to you, then you can ignore it and move on. My expectations were actually quite low for a dose of 150mg eod, plenty of NPP for a beginner. What I was looking most forward to in my cycle were simply increased strength, endurance and decreased recovery time (the size and vascularity was something I expected to come later in my cycle), none of which I've experienced. If that's setting the bar too high, then I everything I had ever read about steroids is false.

Every review of Pinnacle on this forum is nothing short of 100% satisfied. After my experience, I found this suspicious and scoured the web for reviews outside this community. Bottom line is Pinnacle has an anything but stellar reputation on the web. I know many of you have had excellent experiences with their lab, but that doesn't mean their flawless, and that doesn't depreciate my experience. If my experience will help anyone make a wiser decision with their hard earned cash, then IMO it was a success.
 
Just get the bloodwork done for 50$
How much better would you feel if you had the paper to back it up.
 
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