Oral Anabolic Steroid cycles

[ColW]

Hey Dawg I need your input...Before reading this thread I was under the impression I could run an Oral only cycle but I was misguided. I want to gain 5lbs (the most 10lbs) of LBM. I was originally thinking straight Anavar 40mg/day 4-6 weeks along with Arimidex 0.5mg/day and Cycle Assist and I currently take Finesteride 1mg/day. For post I was going to run Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) while still continuing the Arimidex and Cycle Assist. I know now I should add a Test but which one Prop, Eth, Cyp, or sus250...etc. Also canI still run everything else the same jsust add a Test? Obviously I'm in need of guidance, that's why I'm here.

Hey bro, for the best bang for your buck imo your best off with taking some enanthate, something like 400-600mg a week split into two shots. sust250 is just test with 4 different esters its just as good as enanthate or cypionate but usually considerably more expensive. Remember to EAT!! and continue raising your caloric intake as you get bigger. The bigger you get the more you need to eat to maintain it and continue to grow Hope that helped.

 

[juced_porkchop]

Hey bro, for the best bang for your buck imo your best off with taking some enanthate, something like 400-600mg a week split into two shots. sust250 is just test with 4 different esters its just as good as enanthate or cypionate but usually considerably more expensive. Remember to EAT!! and continue raising your caloric intake as you get bigger. The bigger you get the more you need to eat to maintain it and continue to grow Hope that helped.

GREAT tips here! i agree 100%

 

[Austbuilder]

real primo is RARE most is either nothing but oil or its eq substituted for priom. Anavar (var) isnt much better.

unless your going to run a large amount of both the gaisn arent worth the trouble. if your worried about sides just runa moderate test cycle [ maybe 400 mg a week of eth or cyp ] along with some aromasin.it will be cheaper and gve better results with little to no side effects.

Good Advice, I Like this.

 

[LeonPhelps]

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[Bullseye Forever]

Excellent Thread DADAWG.....i know i learned my lesson real damn quick,i reseached for 2 years on a 3rd cycle with 2 or more compunds and was gonna add deca nd dbol to my new cycle,so i did,3 weeks ago,i started my dbol dose at 50mg/day....about day 3,i felt like i had the damn flu,no energy,sleeply as fuck,tired...though i had a bad cold or something,but it was the dbol,i was told to lessen the dose to 20-30mg.day,i know the shot i have is real,cause i gained 11lbs in 13 days all water,but damn,you'd better read and learn before doing orals even with injectibles,i wont ever do an oral again,i stopped mine 15 days in....thats something i wont do again

 

[Older_Strongarm]

Interesting....

It seems as though the older guys that started using "Orals" like dianabol, winstrol and other oral steroids, really did well on them. Look at Frank Columbo, Arnold, Tom Platz......and on and on.
Of course, they may have injected also at one time or another, but most of them did orals. Of course, there is much debate of who did what, what type and how long for each represented gear. So, the question relates to Orals only, and I believe you can make gains, providing you use your head, for the given gear you try. Everyone has an opinion, and the general consitance is "Test is Best." But, if you are doing your research, using your head and the research available, you can do an Oral only cycle and make descent gains. They might not be the gains that others think you should and could be making, but you can make gains. One thing I have learned is that not everyone likes or wants needles. So why flame them out about it? If they want to use orals, lets get them the help they may require to make the Oral make some gains for them, and so their experience is one where the second cyle could be a positive one, and maybe an injectable one to increase the gains. Sometimes they only need a bump in the right direction.

 

[DADAWG]

It seems as though the older guys that started using "Orals" like dianabol, winstrol and other oral steroids, really did well on them. Look at Frank Columbo, Arnold, Tom Platz......and on and on.
Of course, they may have injected also at one time or another, but most of them did orals. Of course, there is much debate of who did what, what type and how long for each represented gear. So, the question relates to Orals only, and I believe you can make gains, providing you use your head, for the given gear you try. Everyone has an opinion, and the general consitance is "Test is Best." But, if you are doing your research, using your head and the research available, you can do an Oral only cycle and make descent gains. They might not be the gains that others think you should and could be making, but you can make gains. One thing I have learned is that not everyone likes or wants needles. So why flame them out about it? If they want to use orals, lets get them the help they may require to make the Oral make some gains for them, and so their experience is one where the second cyle could be a positive one, and maybe an injectable one to increase the gains. Sometimes they only need a bump in the right direction.

the guys you mentioned wouldnt even be midlevel amateurs today with their bodies . we know far more now that they did .

you can justify , rationalize and deny all you want but if its time to cycle then its time to put YOUR BIG BOY PANTIES ON AND INJECT.

 

[chingu]

The problem with this post is that you are comparing mg amounts to mg amounts, of different anabolic hormones. There is no 1mg of testosterone = 1mg of methyltrienolone formula. In fact, some anabolics are 100x times more anabolic than testosterone on a mg basis. That's why a 1-2mg per day methyltrienolone cycle or a 10-15mg per day methyl 1-test cycle yields comparable gains even though the total mg range in the 7-100mg per week range. Read your Vida.

 

[DADAWG]

The problem with this post is that you are comparing mg amounts to mg amounts, of different anabolic hormones. There is no 1mg of testosterone = 1mg of methyltrienolone formula. In fact, some anabolics are 100x times more anabolic than testosterone on a mg basis. That's why a 1-2mg per day methyltrienolone cycle or a 10-15mg per day methyl 1-test cycle yields comparable gains even though the total mg range in the 7-100mg per week range. Read your Vida.

are you saying bthat these so called 100 times more anabolic compounds add 100 times as much mass lol

 

[balboa270]

are you saying bthat these so called 100 times more anabolic compounds add 100 times as much mass lol

no worries pops ,chingo is done he got his posts to pm korea hes done

 

[frankybruzer]

I just got my second cycle in the mail and the dbol looks different from the first batch. In my first cycle they were white and round-now there pink and square-Am I getting fucked now or did I already get fucked? Are they just made different bc they are from different labs?? HELP

 

[DADAWG]

I just got my second cycle in the mail and the dbol looks different from the first batch. In my first cycle they were white and round-now there pink and square-Am I getting fucked now or did I already get fucked? Are they just made different bc they are from different labs?? HELP

with a underground lab the shape and color dont mean anything unless its different than that lab normally uses.

 

[replica1]

lolz

your disappointed in me for talking about facts based on an actual study?

i am not going to ignore or not talk about the facts simply because it may encourage dipshit newbs.

as needsize pointed out in the thread on here i linked too, the reason you see problems with people doing oral only cycles is because more times then not, they have no idea what the hell they are doing.

Dadawg and angry banana man are self proclaimed experts. Its really a laugh when someone dismisses a scientific study made by people with a scientific and approved education by saying that they know better because they know some one who has gotten bad results.
Ive referred banana man to the exact same post as you did and they just ignore it and claim that i dont listen for shit ,, LOL

Ive done 2 6 weeks cycles doing 80mg a day 4 weeks apart of dbol and I got outstanding strength gains on it. I had no recovery issues due to the short cycles

 

[DADAWG]

Dadawg and angry banana man are self proclaimed experts. Its really a laugh when someone dismisses a scientific study made by people with a scientific and approved education by saying that they know better because they know some one who has gotten bad results.
Ive referred banana man to the exact same post as you did and they just ignore it and claim that i dont listen for shit ,, LOL

Ive done 2 6 weeks cycles doing 80mg a day 4 weeks apart of dbol and I got outstanding strength gains on it. I had no recovery issues due to the short cycles

as we say down here " you just cant fix stupid " good luck lol.

 

[balboa270]

Dadawg and angry banana man are self proclaimed experts. Its really a laugh when someone dismisses a scientific study made by people with a scientific and approved education by saying that they know better because they know some one who has gotten bad results.
Ive referred banana man to the exact same post as you did and they just ignore it and claim that i dont listen for shit ,, LOL

Ive done 2 6 weeks cycles doing 80mg a day 4 weeks apart of dbol and I got outstanding strength gains on it. I had no recovery issues due to the short cycles

The point of the matter is its fucking stupid. To run orals only I do hear Hermaphrodites have no issues with this oral only though I'm not calling you out on it . Basically dont post that shit respect the house your in and there methods of advice, PM someone your ideas and your scientific studies respect the house.

 

[bippal]

Dadawg and angry banana man are self proclaimed experts. Its really a laugh when someone dismisses a scientific study made by people with a scientific and approved education by saying that they know better because they know some one who has gotten bad results.
Ive referred banana man to the exact same post as you did and they just ignore it and claim that i dont listen for shit ,, LOL

Ive done 2 6 weeks cycles doing 80mg a day 4 weeks apart of dbol and I got outstanding strength gains on it. I had no recovery issues due to the short cycles

I can show you plenty of subjects were I can link multiple scientific studies and completely contradict one another. Which one will ou believe? If your a idiot, you'll just go with the one you agree with so you feel better about yourself and having a tiny dick. But I'd rather go from things myself and others have experienced. I like my liver , I think I'll keep it and avoid oral cycles. Be a grown up, take the tampon out, and pin.

 

[D-Cal]

oral only cycles =

 

[gunningit]

Oral only cyles are crap. I speak from experience, after being stupidly persuaded into the idea of doing one. I'm 21 years old and have made very good natural gains since the age of around 18. People were already asking me if I was on juice (mainly because of my impressive strength and how much my body had changed as I used to be a right fatty).

I decided to do tbol and after two weeks I've packed the cycle in and realised how stupid I had been in making the decision. I read online everywhere oral only cycles where not smart but having seen a few threads praising them and my friends seeing results on them I took the plunge. After around 10/11 days I just felt crap and by day 14 I put the towel in. I feel lethargic, don't have a sense of well being, lowered libido (it initially seemed to increase). Yeah after a week I did start seeing some gains in the gym but it was not worth it at all. The effect on testosterone has become evident by this point and I will never ever cycle again without test, in fact my next cycle if I do one will be in about 4 years and it will be a test only.

Experienced people say they are crap for a reason. They know they're stuff, they're not trying to be 'party poopers'. Just thought I would share. Don't be impatient, don't fall to peer pressure and don't do oral only cycles!

 

[Zeek]

I can't believe there are guys in this thread agruing the validity of oral cycles with the Dawg! Comical still! I needed a laugh

 

[Vandamme7706]

need feedback

Taking 1cc of t400, 1cc of enanthate 250mgs,1cc of Deca 300mgs....twice a week (every 3 days) too much? Overkill?? Need to gain 30lbs in as little as 6 weeks