PH and Test as a base?

[mlupi319]

This is retarded....You need testosterone for more than building muscle. Look up symptoms of low testosterone. Those are the symptoms guys are trying to avoid when doing longer cycles. So yes you can a 4week cycle of SD with good results which will shut down your natural testosterone production. You will get the shitty side effects of low/no testosterone for a couple of weeks..but when you run a cycle for over 30days using real gear smart users always run a test base because having NO TESTOSTERONE IN YOUR SYSTEM SUCKS!

And what is this statement about post cycle therapy (pct) preventing shutdown? If you supply your body with an external supply of androgens (exogenous) then your body will stop producing testosterone, this is what happens when you use pro-hormone and/or steroids. This means you will not produce test while on cycle and the only way to have test in your system is to inject it BUT YOU ARE STILL SHUT DOWN. Then post cycle therapy (pct) is used to restart your natural production of test (endogenous) because you are no longer getting androgens from an external source.

Get it?

 

[ICEN]

Ya I get it but you guys are acting like its a 100% must have while using a PH and if someone doesn't want to use a test then they shouldn't run a PH. If you are going to run test then theres no point of running a PH when your already getting test. I figured ppl run Ph's becaues they can't get their hands on test or real shit so thats why many people run PH's because you can get them so easily. Many people run Ph's without test ya they get shitty sides sometimes but the PH still works and does what it promised assuming they are using it right.
Will test help on cycle of PH fuck ya but you don't 100% need it like you do a post cycle therapy (pct). post cycle therapy (pct) is needed while on a ph that is a 100% must, Test arnt a 100% must if you can handle the sides.

But main point is that for alot of people getting injections are harder to find when PH's are online and quick and easy to get. Alot of people also don't like needles call it pussy but truth is people run PH's many times without test plus its much cheaper.

But I guess if you arn't afraid of needles and want to spend more money on test than go ahead.

So lets say two guys use a PH one guy runs a cycle with the PH and post cycle therapy (pct) and the other guy does the exact same thing but while running with test added in the cycle. What sides wont that guy get thats on test compared to the guy who isnt using it?

 

[anewguy]

you sir, are as big of a douchebag as your picture suggests. You should grab some Winstrol (winny) to go with that SD.

 

[ICEN]

At least I have a picture of myself the rest of you are either to pussy or just find pics on google that ive seen before LMAO what fags

 

[anewguy]

Seriously man what makes you think that you are right about things?? I don't even want to argue that you are incorrect anymore... I just want to know why you feel as though you are smarter than people with experience. Maybe a friend told you differently? Maybe you have daddy issues? Just curious...

 

[ICEN]

dont be mad because peter griffin is bigger than you, personally i only take advice from people I can see, if you dont have a photo of yourself I could careless you could just be some fatfuck sitting behind a labtop saying do this do that, i dont care how much reserach you do or did if you aint got the body to back it up then nobody cares what you think however everything ive ever did I got results from so im pretty sure if i ran ph without test for 4 weeks that im gonna MAKE SOME GAINS on video, probably lose a couple pounds but keep most of it and keep most of my strength to. Dont be mad because peter griffin looks better than you bro

 

[mlupi319]

But main point is that for alot of people getting injections are harder to find when PH's are online and quick and easy to get. Alot of people also don't like needles call it pussy but truth is people run PH's many times without test plus its much cheaper.

But I guess if you arn't afraid of needles and want to spend more money on test than go ahead.

So lets say two guys use a PH one guy runs a cycle with the PH and post cycle therapy (pct) and the other guy does the exact same thing but while running with test added in the cycle. What sides wont that guy get thats on test compared to the guy who isnt using it?

Do you think you run post cycle therapy (pct) while you are taking your PH? post cycle therapy (pct) stands for Post-Cycle-Therapy. post cycle therapy (pct) is done after you're finished taking your PH or steroid. Thus post cycle therapy (pct) will not keep you from being shut down while On Cycle.

I told you to look up the side effects of low testosterone..those are the sides a guy will get when he does not run a test base as part of his cycle.

Are you retarded?

 

[crazyfmike]

The issue isnt about getting shut down? FUCK IF IT AIN'T you think people like getting shut down? The point is to run the safest cycle possible not double your chances of getting shut down because you want better results or am I wrong here? So you are basically saying who cares about getting shut down its better off getting the most gains possible?

Is this fucking guy retarded?

 

[crazyfmike]

Leave this fucking TROLL alone.

These fucks waste time and effort that can be used for a guy that doesn't already know everything.

 

[ICEN]

I know post cycle therapy (pct) is not on cycle you diptard, i said running ph and post cycle therapy (pct) just in case you fags say something like HEY YOU HAVE TO DO A post cycle therapy (pct) DID YOU NOT KNOW THAT NOOBIE? I said post cycle therapy (pct) so you fags cant reply with something stupid like you dont know what a post cycle therapy (pct) is? ARE YOU RETARDED bro you probably weigh the same as that ugly baby in your avatar picture right

 

[anewguy]

Leave this fucking TROLL alone.

These fucks waste time and effort that can be used for a guy that doesn't already know everything.

Good idea cuz I'm about to explode on this kid and get banned. Oh well, I'm going to drop out of this thread. If any other newbies see this please don't take the advice of people like this. That's why they don't learn things in life: because they already know everything.

 

[ICEN]

lets play bets, answer this simple ass question when I run a cycle of my ph without test you think ima not get any gains or you think ima lose it all and fuck up hahahha nub

 

[ICEN]

48 year old saying the word TROLL and devoting his life to internet amazing!

 

[ICEN]

Good idea cuz I'm about to explode on this kid and get banned. Oh well, I'm going to drop out of this thread. If any other newbies see this please don't take the advice of people like this. That's why they don't learn things in life: because they already know everything.

You aint gonna explode on shit cuz your too pussy and worried about your fucking internet account oh you might get banned and cant spend 23 hours online any more, still never answered my question bro who looks better you or peter griffin, bro anytime you wanna get your ass whoop you can come to Pa, ill give you my adress bro im in the mood to beat one of you fuck heads up hahah you can be 26 or 43 either way doesnt change the fact that you will get your ass whooped so bad that they will bann me from the thread because you might never come back on the thread after you go back home like damn i did all this shit talking knowing damn well i cant fight. Stick to your doritos and the gym bro the fighting world isnt for you youll get fucked up.
Next time have a picture of yourself not peter griffin your probably some fat 30 year old who doesnt even take advice from himself, or wait go on google and put fake pictures up and act like its you just like 80% of the people on every forum i go to

 

[slair]

you're either trolling or the biggest retard i've ever seen on steroidology.......and that says something man, be proud!!

 

[ICEN]

as long as I dont look like a skinny fag or fat fuck i dont care, you mad bro? because

 

[Rastas]

You look like a fag copping a blowie off another fag in that avatar of yours. Were you able to maintain an erection while you were balls deep in his face orifice? I just want to know what your test levels were like on a PH only cycle.

 

[Jack Tors]

i wasted 15 minutes of my life ill never get back from reading this cluster fuck of a thread.

 

[ICEN]

I never ran my PH cycle yet diptard thats right your a fucking diptard, I'll be running SD for 4 weeks and I'm gonna make all kinds of gains, you must watch TMW cuz you like their mushroom tip until they say FUCK OUT DA WHEY. Once I start my 4 week cycle of SD I'll be sure to come back and say guess what guys I gained and kept 10 pounds and my bench went up 50 pounds and I KEPT IT! then you will cry and say NO THATS IMPOSSIBLE! then i will say fuck you role the video bitch U MAD THAT IMA MAKE SOME GAINS HOE?

 

[ICEN]

i wasted 15 minutes of my life ill never get back from reading this cluster fuck of a thread.

It doesn't take that long to read you must be a sped well of course