properly storing your gear

[THE-DET-OAK]

The following is the first paragraph of the study i will post link to. read the whole thing its great, they took some people that never used steroids and then some that had for 4 years run whatever cycle they wanted while the studied them.


D I S C U S S I O N
A A S i n d u c e d c h a n g e s
In experienced strength athletes, the use of polydrug
regimens of AASs, which is common practice, resulted in
an increase in serum Apo-B concentrations, and a large
decrease in serum concentrations of HDL-C, HDL2-C, HDL3-
C, and Apo-A1. This leads to an increased risk of cardiovas-
cular disease.http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1724824/pdf/v038p00253.pdf

Keep in mind guys I did not post this to scare anyone. The study only states that you are at risk of a cardiovascular event while your lipids are screwed up. It also states that the longer you cycle something that messes up your lipids the longer it takes them to come back to normal.

The nice thing about the study is it tells you which AAS screw your lipids up. It states test and deca have a positive effect.

so the moral of the story is, know what the fuck your doing, and avoid extremely stressful events when on Winstrol (winny)

Its still a cool study because lets face it what other study lets a bunch of guys run whatever stack they want while they are being monitored.

 

[natural-guy]

My thread has turned into a joke guys. all I asked was a couple of simple questions and it's turned into stories about people dying and comments on how I should treat my wife and family.

For starters I happen to love my wife and kids. Don't tell me none of you ever called your wife bitchy. Come on now. You took that the wrong way.

Secondly, I care about my health and my family. To tell you the truth I originally joined ology just to find a source. But after reading and reading and reading some more it became much more than that. If I had'nt came to ology my first cycle would have been an unhealthy disaster. I learnd what post cycle therapy (pct) is and how important it is. I learned about AI's. I learned how long to run a cycle without causing ill effects to my body. I learned how to dose correctly. I learned what to mix and not to mix. These are just a few of the things, I can't list them all.

Thirdly, I feel aas are just like any other substance. There is a difference between use and abuse. I plan on use. Some people drink, some people smoke weed or cigarettes. I want to try to use aas. As long as I don't let it get out of control and follow the correct protocal I don't see a problem. I don't plan on doing a damn 30 week cycle or anything, I plan on doing this responsibly.

Last, as far as what I do behind my family's back and the danger to my marriage. Millions of guys do shit behind their significant others back. Some people cheat, some do hardcore drugs, some lie, there are many things that people do that can cause a problem in a relationship. There are much worse things I could be doing. So give me a break. I am trying to do this as responsibly as possible and I have ology to thank for it.

On a final note, I would like to thank Cyto, Mr. Humdiddly, Det-Oak, Ezred, And some of the mods on here, sorry if I forgot anyone, I know there are plenty more, for all there help in setting me straight wether they realize it or not. Me experimenting with this could have been bad if not for the knowledge they chose to share. I can't thank you enough and everyone else in my shoes should pay attention and do the same.

Now, with that said and done, let's get back to original post please

 

[miz2680]

Do u think I would make this shit up?? Craig armstrong from rochester ny. Look it up. Died when he was 22 I think and was one of my brothers bestfriend. heart stopped while sleeping. What other 22 year old have u ever heard that happening to without steroids involved?? None.

And the guy that had the anadrol release to his heart didn't die. He had a severe heart attack at 25 years old. He is very lucky that he did live. Just cus u don't read about it when ur on google all day doesn't mean it didn't happen. Who the fuck would make something up like that.
I don't understand why everyone is hating on the fact that people keep there gear from their loved ones. And no matter how many times u tell urself ur not hurting yourself with steroids it will never be true. THAT'S THE TRUTH. But like I said we take those chances.

You guys are totally scaring the fuck out of yourselves! No one has ever died directly from steroid use. Shit like that happens all the time. It's just unfortunate. A buddy's 17 year old son died of a massive heart attack just a few weeks ago, no STEROIDS involved. He had a problem with one of his valves that no one ever knew about. Shit like this just happen sometimes. Stop fucking saying that its steroids, you all sound like fucking Lyle Alzado. This is why society frowns upon steroids. Because they have no education on what steroids are and what they do. Steroids are not bad for your health, they can actually help you live a better and healthier lifestyle. Now if you are trying to look like Jay Cutler and Ronnie Coleman than you will have problems with your health. These dudes abuse the shit out of steroids. It's just like alcohol, there is moderation and there's abuse. Of course if you're taking 4-5 cc's of test and swallowing 5 tabs of anadrol or dbol a day you are going to have problems. But if you supplement your lifestyle with steroids you can be as healthy as ever. Educate yourself before you ever stick that pin in your ass cause all you're doing is fooling yourself.

 

[THE-DET-OAK]

No one has ever died directly from steroid use.

 

[superhuman_98]

My thread has turned into a joke guys. all I asked was a couple of simple questions and it's turned into stories about people dying and comments on how I should treat my wife and family.

For starters I happen to love my wife and kids. Don't tell me none of you ever called your wife bitchy. Come on now. You took that the wrong way.

Secondly, I care about my health and my family. To tell you the truth I originally joined ology just to find a source. But after reading and reading and reading some more it became much more than that. If I had'nt came to ology my first cycle would have been an unhealthy disaster. I learnd what post cycle therapy (pct) is and how important it is. I learned about AI's. I learned how long to run a cycle without causing ill effects to my body. I learned how to dose correctly. I learned what to mix and not to mix. These are just a few of the things, I can't list them all.

Thirdly, I feel aas are just like any other substance. There is a difference between use and abuse. I plan on use. Some people drink, some people smoke weed or cigarettes. I want to try to use aas. As long as I don't let it get out of control and follow the correct protocal I don't see a problem. I don't plan on doing a damn 30 week cycle or anything, I plan on doing this responsibly.

Last, as far as what I do behind my family's back and the danger to my marriage. Millions of guys do shit behind their significant others back. Some people cheat, some do hardcore drugs, some lie, there are many things that people do that can cause a problem in a relationship. There are much worse things I could be doing. So give me a break. I am trying to do this as responsibly as possible and I have ology to thank for it.

On a final note, I would like to thank Cyto, Mr. Humdiddly, Det-Oak, Ezred, And some of the mods on here, sorry if I forgot anyone, I know there are plenty more, for all there help in setting me straight wether they realize it or not. Me experimenting with this could have been bad if not for the knowledge they chose to share. I can't thank you enough and everyone else in my shoes should pay attention and do the same.

Now, with that said and done, let's get back to original post please

Very well said sir.

 

[natural-guy]

Geez. Look what I've started. Come on guys. WTF

 

[ECKSRATED]

ECKSRATED... If you don't keep stupid shit off the forum, I am going to ban your ass... Unless you have evidence to back up your wild claims, I am going to have to ask you to keep them to yourself.

The real issue here is that you all aren't open enough with your significant others. The fact of the matter is that cycling is not a small venture; done properly it consumes a large chunk of your life. This includes time away from home to train, meal prep, changes in social life, and the list goes on...

Then ban me. If u think its stupid and u have the power to ban me go right ahead but all I was doing doing was stating what I believe. We all have our own opinions and beliefs and those were mine.
I know what I have seen in my days and I thought I could come on here and share it with everyone but I guess not cus themilkman wants to act like my father and tell me what I can and cannot say.

I thought these were discussion forums....

 

[superhuman_98]

Then ban me. If u think its stupid and u have the power to ban me go right ahead but all I was doing doing was stating what I believe. We all have our own opinions and beliefs and those were mine.
I know what I have seen in my days and I thought I could come on here and share it with everyone but I guess not cus themilkman wants to act like my father and tell me what I can and cannot say.

I thought these were discussion forums....

With great power comes great responsibility!

 

[Jscrilla187]

Then ban me. If u think its stupid and u have the power to ban me go right ahead but all I was doing doing was stating what I believe. We all have our own opinions and beliefs and those were mine.
I know what I have seen in my days and I thought I could come on here and share it with everyone but I guess not cus themilkman wants to act like my father and tell me what I can and cannot say.

I thought these were discussion forums....

Ok everyone understands what we believe, but all milk man said was for you to keep your beliefs to yourself unless u have proof/evidence that will defend every word in your belief... No need to take it out of context, were all grown ass men atleast I'd like to think so.... So just relax you said your beliefs n he said his let's leave it at that.

 

[JoosedUp]

Geez. Look what I've started. Come on guys. WTF

shut the fuck up about "waht you've created oh no!". fuckkkk

 

[shithead]

Maybe died in his sleep from sleep apnea. lol Excessive test, makes you snore more.... but then again I have never seen or heard of anyone dying in there sleep from sleep apnea due to steroids.

 

[natural-guy]

speakers was a good idea. i was keeping my pins and vials in an empty scivation bottle that i put behind a couple of larger protein bottles on my shelf way up high that my wife can't reach without a chair and never touches anyway 'cause everything there is just my supps. you might be able to swing something like that.

Thanks ezred, you gave me a good idea with the supps comment.

 

[natural-guy]

shut the fuck up about "waht you've created oh no!". fuckkkk

Ology wuld be the perfect forum if it wasn't for the occasional ....But I guess every forum has a couple them

 

[JoosedUp]

Ology wuld be the perfect forum if it wasn't for the occasional ....But I guess every forum has a couple them

like you lol fuck off

 

[ezred]

shut the fuck up about "waht you've created oh no!". fuckkkk

he has a point man... he started this thread to get help, and it got (inadvertently i'm sure) hijacked and then just got all weird with accusations of this and that and stories of this or that and a mod stepping in and laying the stick down....
then it started to get back on track, and then went straight out of control again....

frustrating i'm sure for the OP when he has to sift through a bunch of bs (not saying anyone's posts or points specifically were bs.... just mean all the junk that got tacked on to his thread) to find people that are actually responding to his initial statements.

 

[biggie908]

hide it in ur protein powder,, she will never look theere

 

[natural-guy]

he has a point man... he started this thread to get help, and it got (inadvertently i'm sure) hijacked and then just got all weird with accusations of this and that and stories of this or that and a mod stepping in and laying the stick down....
then it started to get back on track, and then went straight out of control again....

frustrating i'm sure for the OP when he has to sift through a bunch of bs (not saying anyone's posts or points specifically were bs.... just mean all the junk that got tacked on to his thread) to find people that are actually responding to his initial statements.

Thank you ez, unfortunatly I didn't have the patience to explain it the way you did. I probably should apologize for the ahole comment. I don't usually communicate myself that way.

 

[onotadaki]

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[snigg]

Shit! My grandmother died a few years ago in her sleep! She must have been on steroids.

call the roid busters, they'll solve it!