serious rage and mentally unstable, help.

You must be kidding me right?

James Lewis wins the UKBFF overall in 2007 at 23 years old, and turns IFBB Pro.

What age was he when he started using steroids?

I started at 18, there nothing wrong with me.

All this forum folk law, saying ''wait till your 21''

Why?
Please read this....

What appears below was developed by a number of our good friends at www.anabolicfitness.com the link is Veteran Consensus Statement on the age of initiation

Veteran Consensus Statement on the age of initiation of Anabolic use.


Anabolic steroids promote strength gain, muscle synthesis, and increased metabolic capacity. Their responsible, moderate use improves athletic performance, cosmetic appearance, and perceived social opportunity and self-esteem. However, anabolics achieve their effects by perturbing the human endocrine system, a complex feedback mechanism of glands and organs that are, in healthy and youthful persons, in an exquisite state of natural balance. Compounds like anabolic steroids that alter this balance are appropriate for use only by mature, well-trained athletes who understand these drugs, their risks and their benefits. Except in the case of prospective users of clear promise for national or international ranking in a sport, realistically hopeful for the kinds of benefits such ranking confers, the following should be characteristic of anyone, of any age, prior to the addition of anabolic steroids to a training regime:


1. PHYSICAL MATURITY. Anabolics can, through either direct or indirect effects, cause premature closure of the epiphyseal plates (growth plates) at the end of bone, an irreversible effect that may result in permanently shorter stature than the athlete would otherwise achieve. Therefore, the athlete should have reached full physical stature and maturity of the skeleton before contemplating anabolic use. In most cases, full stature is not reached until the very late teens and, in many cases, development of both long skeletal bones and joint assemblies (hips and shoulders) continues into the early 20's, development of the larynx (voicebox) into the mid-20’s.


2. SIGNIFICANT MATURE MUSCULARITY. Anabolics have poor effect, or transitory effect, on athletes in mediocre condition; in addition, their tendency to boost muscle strength ahead of the strength of supporting tendons and ligaments can lead to debilitating injury in athletes without substantial prior training. Therefore, the athlete should have accumulated a significant amount of mature muscle mass and tendon strength through a dedicated program of resistance training prior to beginning anabolic use. Recognizing that there is substantial individual variability in training efficiency and effects, a minimum of 3 years, perhaps as many as 7, of dedicated weight training is required to achieve this necessary physical foundation, on which anabolics can be used safely and to best effect.


3. THOROUGH KNOWLEDGE. Anabolics are not a substitute for proper technique or applied knowledge of the basics of exercise physiology. Therefore, the athlete considering the use of anabolics should have a very thorough and detailed knowledge of lifting technique, dietary practice, recuperative processes, and hormonal and nonhormonal supplementation, and should if possible prepare for the use of anabolics under the guidance of a trusted mentor who has mastered these issues. In particular, the athlete should have an excellent understanding of the uses, effects, and risk profiles of anabolics, and should be thoroughly conversant with the kinds of ancillary agents that minimize side-effects and speed post-cycle recovery. Recognizing that there is substantial individual variability in the pace at which this knowledge is acquired, at least a year of arduous study and reading is necessary to understand anabolics and post-cycle recovery, and at least 4 years of practice is required to establish the requisite knowledge base of lifting technique, recuperation, and diet.


4. PSYCHOLOGICAL MATURITY. Anabolic steroids can have marked effect on mood and disposition, either during the cycle of active use, or its aftermath. Therefore, the athlete considering the use of anabolics should have the psychological health and maturity that will enable him or her to use anabolics with minimal social, psychological, and legal risk to both him/herself and his/her network of partners and collaborators. In addition, the athlete should be firm enough in purpose and balanced enough in approach to understand not only how and when to initiate use of anabolics, but how and when to curtail or abandon use safely should that need arise.


The use of anabolic steroids is unwise for persons who have not satisfied these prerequisites, though exceptions may be made in cases of very unusual athletic promise. While not a function of mere calendar age per se, it is unarguable that, on average, the likelihood that these conditions will have been met increases as the age of the prospective anabolic user increases.


For the reasons adduced above, the following statement of consensus opinion is made:

Allowing for substantial individual variability, and with the exception of cases of truly outstanding athletic promise, the athlete considering the use of anabolics should be socially and physically mature, psychologically healthy, and should have completed 4 to 7 years of dedicated, mentored training in strength/endurance athletics and study in lifting technique, dietary practices, recuperation skills and supplementation. In most cases, the athlete will have reached the age of 21 before these prerequisites are in place, recognizing that many athletes will not have achieved the necessary experience, physical maturity, and psychic balance until their mid-20's or even later
 
While we all know that the media's portrayal of the so-called "roid rage" is ridiculous, it isn't unreasonable to realize that shifting hormones will have an emotional effect on a person. Low testosterone can easily make a man more irritable. Increased estrogen can certainly make somebody more emotional. Many of us feel better while using testosterone, but there are countless anecdotal reports of guys having a much shorter temper while using trenbolone.

The steroid community doesn't like the roid rage myth (with reason) but that doesn't mean that it should take the other extreme stance and make the ridiculous claim that that body's hormones never have effects on emotional and mental status.
 
While we all know that the media's portrayal of the so-called "roid rage" is ridiculous, it isn't unreasonable to realize that shifting hormones will have an emotional effect on a person. Low testosterone can easily make a man more irritable. Increased estrogen can certainly make somebody more emotional. Many of us feel better while using testosterone, but there are countless anecdotal reports of guys having a much shorter temper while using trenbolone.

The steroid community doesn't like the roid rage myth (with reason) but that doesn't mean that it should take the other extreme stance and make the ridiculous claim that that body's hormones never have effects on emotional and mental status.

Excellent points........:D
 
While we all know that the media's portrayal of the so-called "roid rage" is ridiculous, it isn't unreasonable to realize that shifting hormones will have an emotional effect on a person. Low testosterone can easily make a man more irritable. Increased estrogen can certainly make somebody more emotional. Many of us feel better while using testosterone, but there are countless anecdotal reports of guys having a much shorter temper while using trenbolone.

The steroid community doesn't like the roid rage myth (with reason) but that doesn't mean that it should take the other extreme stance and make the ridiculous claim that that body's hormones never have effects on emotional and mental status.


Nice! See i knew the board would get there money out of you M. Your all ready proving to be a solid investment....
 
i said im almost 24, and yes, its the truth. i am quite the advocate for people to wait before they run Anabolic Androgenic Steroids (AAS) and i do know all of the consequences as stated above. i agree that i am on the younger side of users, but im certainly not some douche bag kid looking to get laid. as i said ive been lifting for 10 years and have been a trainer for three years. and its not the asshole factor...ive never been even remotely unkind to anyone, and im not just being an asshole now, i said i cant control my emotions and they are very strong. i really do appreciate those taking the time to help me out.
the stuff is balkan pharm
what kinda gear you runnin? meaning what manufacturer/ lab etc.....

sorry to doubt you on this man, not lookin to start an argument but r u really 24? I mean imo i feel that is to young for gear. if your 18 19 yrs. old than the issues your havin r very common.
 
You must be kidding me right?


I started at 18, there nothing wrong with me.

All this forum folk law, saying ''wait till your 21''

Why? With a statement like that you might be a perfect example why....


Incase your Epiphyseal plates close? Show me one scientific report/study/document, that proves that using steroids will do this.

There are none. Now you must be kidding...


This shit pisses me off. Hey you know what I all ways say is it's better to be pissed off then pissed on...
 
and trust me man, i am not calling this 'roid rage' i hate that phrase as much as anyone else and again im not concluding that this is all from the drugs.
 
and trust me man, i am not calling this 'roid rage' i hate that phrase as much as anyone else and again im not concluding that this is all from the drugs.

Bro we can call it what we want the bottom line ie your not imagining the hole thing. I’ll say again for me and luckily it only happened that 1 or 2 times way back when I was younger and back at the beginning when I was first testing out the steroid side. There was no if and’s or but’s about it I was enraged and willing to take on in this 1 situation 2 guys over a traffic incident. And #1 that behavior was not me. I like you have all ways been a happy go silly kinda guy. Just loved to joke and play around and nothing really bothered me. But this time with the 2 guys was fucked up. I said to myself after the hole thing was over, I was saying what the F... am I doing? Bro if this thing went bad #1 I could of got the shit beat out of me by these 2 guys and if not my ass shot off. This was in florida and down hear everyone has a gun and if you feel like your life is in danger you can shoot. Point being the only thing in my life at that time that was different was the fact that I was on the juice. So you tell me if I wasn’t feeling some extreme aggression while on the juice. But like I said it really never happened again so go figure...Point is it’s something to be awear of and needs to be delt with if it is an issue...JMO
 
I apologise for laying down such a blanket opinion.

But from reading I have done, and friends opinions, I have formed an opinion of my own.

Of course steroids wont be for every young athlete, but if you plan on getting anwhere in the bodybuilding scene, then your going to need to use steroids.

It's just an opinion, please take it at that.
 
Just for curiosity sake, can anyone actually link to me a study to prove Epiphyseal Plate Fusion.

Not theory, an actual study.

Just for my own learning.
 
Your the kind that needs to STOP juicing forever!! Getting your ass kicked will calm you down real quick. And if this pisses you off grow the F@%& up!
 
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Originally Posted by bakedbeans
it's the ass-hole factor.

Were you an ass-hole before you started using steroids?

That holds true for some guys..I new a couple way back in the day back home. idiots that they were...
 
I'm naturally a calm guy too... Anabolic Androgenic Steroids (AAS) definitely turns up the "asshole" switch but I personAlly think it's a good thing...as long as it's within some boundaries. Nice guys finish last in almost everything. Honestly, you sound like you need a nice bong hit...or two. Chill out man! Also... It's easy to be irritable when you're NOT on Anabolic Androgenic Steroids (AAS) and tired. Your body needs that extra sleep now more than ever! 4 hours a night is not enough sleep. Period. Get some rest. Take a bong hit and drop the annoying gf! ThAt's what I've done and I feel like the best asshole walking down the street!
 
I'm naturally a calm guy too... Anabolic Androgenic Steroids (AAS) definitely turns up the "asshole" switch but I personAlly think it's a good thing...as long as it's within some boundaries. Nice guys finish last in almost everything. Honestly, you sound like you need a nice bong hit...or two. Chill out man! Also... It's easy to be irritable when you're NOT on Anabolic Androgenic Steroids (AAS) and tired. Your body needs that extra sleep now more than ever! 4 hours a night is not enough sleep. Period. Get some rest. Take a bong hit and drop the annoying gf! ThAt's what I've done and I feel like the best asshole walking down the street!

damn right dude, youre exactly right. the past two or three nights ive been forcing myself to get more sleep, taking 6 mg of melatonin. i do feel much better. ive increased my cardio which always makes me feel better, and i started initiating sex more often, once it starts, im good. hopefully just keeping these things in check will smooth it out. thanks to everyone who took this post seriously and didn't use it as oppurtunity to earn cool points on the board (ozzy, nickd84, skarhead, bakedbeans).
 
Your the kind that needs to STOP juicing forever!! Getting your ass kicked will calm you down real quick. And if this pisses you off grow the F@%& up!
Please try and find a more respectful method to convey your message in the future.

Thanks.
 
I must say I completely agree with the increase in aggression than one feels. I myself have found that just about any compound makes me freaking agitated. I know a lot of people say that dbol puts them in a good mood....well not me. Any type of test, and most orals make my personality do a 180. Thank God that I am a pretty easygoing person when I'm not on cycle. However, when I'm on cycle I am antisocial to the point that it's borderline rude; I become incredibly non-conversational, and there's plenty of times where I just want to snap, but fortunately I'm able to keep it in check.

I can't say that I've ever felt "roid rage." I think that's a term that is a possible personality trait that is exemplified some users, but I believe that it is often blown out of proportion.
 
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