What would you guys do if you were me?

[armenianiron]

I know...that is why I have been in mix-up of whether to do them or not. In one scenario I have you guys telling me to wait and if I don't then I will be doomed from the way you guys make it sound, and on the other hand I have a NABBA mr universe telling me a low dose test cycle would be fine for me. So you if you look at it from that view then it's easy to understand my inability to make the decision. I was obviously joking about blasting and cruising btw

 

[traviswyliedime]

test 500mg

 

[Necrosis]

.....the "joke" wasn't "obvious", not at all.

If you want to take this guys advice then so be it... Obviously the many views and life expiremce here aren't enough to convince you even though we clearly outweigh the yes's with no's.

 

[bippal]

You have one guy telling you what worked for him, and like twenty telling you the opposite. If you want to crowd source opinions , listen to them. Instead of throwing it all away to go with what one guy say because he agrees with you. When you're wrong , you're wrong , just suck it up and wait.

 

[armenianiron]

the man who recommended a 8-12 week cycle of 900mg of test spoke to dave palumbo and that's were he recieved his advice.
*not using it to condone that kind of dose to a first time cycler, nor do I plan on doing that much if I make the decision to use, just found it interesting.

 

[coltmc45]

Well if Dave palumbo said you should do it then OBVIOUSLY you should LMAO fucking kids.

 

[armenianiron]

I just talked to my doctor and he said that with the amount of natural test I have the amount of gear I would have to take for a first timer to make it even worth doing could possibly carry consequences. I guess we'll see how far I can go natty I guess...I don't need AAS to be happy, I'm just addicted to putting on muscle to be honest with you guys.

 

[armenianiron]

Well if Dave palumbo said you should do it then OBVIOUSLY you should LMAO fucking kids.

I am not unintelligent as you guys would like to think... (hence me not jumping the gun already) just trying to get as much input as possible. I am used to the hate part though as kids in school have accused me of use even though I have never done so yet...I'm sure that's happened to a few of you guys before too. (I just take it as a compliment though lol.)

 

[coltmc45]

Not saying you're unintelligent. We've all told you, experienced AAS users, that your natty test is still high. My only question is if you're not going to take any advice from us why are you here? Didn't you join ology to get advice from people with experience? But when you don't get the answers you want to hear you keep searching until you find that ONE person that will validate you. We've seen it ALOT from younger people. They come here to get validated with immature ideas and when they don't were all assholes that are just "hating" on them and don't know what were talking about because the big guy at the gym or the steriod dealer said he's g2g. Believe me, we see it all the time.

 

[armenianiron]

Yeah that's why I said in my last post that I'm going to continue to lift until I no longer make gains naturally after hearing what my doc said about my test levels being like a mild aas cycle...I know I may seem like a pain in the ass about being so indecisive, but that is just the smart part of my brain kicking in and fighting back against my urge to start using. I've read that steroids have a blood coagulating effect. The poor blood flow caused by that in conjunction with low test levels are what cause erectile dysfunction I'm assuming, thoughts? And because of this reason do any of you guys take a blood thinner while on aas? I'm going to wait things out for the sake of my manhood, and just the fact alone that I am having second thoughts reoccuring in my head. Oh well...I guess I got plenty of time to research the forums on here and ask questions until I run out (hope you guys don't get as annoyed with my questions as you do about my once indecisive mindset on using haha)

 

[DaHurt]

Oh well...I guess I got plenty of time to research the forums on here and ask questions until I run out

Ask as many questions as you want (after making sure it can't be answered by a simple search) - that's why Ology is here.

Do some natural shows, see if you really are cut out for competition. See if you like getting on stage. See how you stack up against comparably-aged non-geared competitors.

If you want to truly approach this in a logical fashion, you'll just as easily acknowledge your flaws as you do your strong points. Start by doing small shows and getting feedback.

And keep us updated bro - cheers.

 

[armenianiron]

Yeah no doubt, for sure Dahurt. Would it be risky for me to use a clen/t3 stack sometime during my cut right now, or do you suggest I stay away from them as well?

 

[DaHurt]

Yeah no doubt, for sure Dahurt. Would it be risky for me to use a clen/t3 stack sometime during my cut right now, or do you suggest I stay away from them as well?

Personally, I'd stay away from clen man - it can be some nasty stuff - but maybe some vets can chime in here.

 

[armenianiron]

Hmm. I see. Well right now I am on a pretty extreme carb cycling diet entailing 3 days of 50 or less grams a day (carbs) and 400-450 gram carb up every 4th, results are amazing but thyroid definitely slows down on the low carb days because not only are they low carb, but also put me in a 1000 calorie deficit. *1800 calories on low carb days/3000-3200 on refeed day* needless to say a 1000 cal deficit slows down the throid for sure. I could always eat a week at maintenance to combat this but by the time my cutting phase is all said and done i would have to do this probably 3 or so times making in 3 weeks longer than necessary when I could intermittently take t3 to prevent this during those weeks I would eat at maintenance. I don't know a whole ton about t3 so help would be appreciated.

 

[DaHurt]

Why are you cutting? Are you prepping for a competition?

 

[armenianiron]

Mainly for personal satisfaction and to test my will power. I have always been chubby my whole life and have never been at low of bf% as I am approaching now. I used to go to bulk up, but I would give up after a couple weeks after looking in the mirror and realizing that its probably not a good idea to start bulking at 16% bodyfat LOL. Plus getting to a very low % is a necessity for competing so by doing it now I will learn the ups and downs which will give me a good advantage as opposed to if I didn't when next summer rolls around and I have prior experience/confidence from knowing that I did it once before. (next summer I hit the stage)
Oh yeah, and another big reason is because I want to put on clean mass, there's no reason to eat sloppy in the off season just to have to work harder during your contest prep.