When do visible gains cease?

[Kristofer68ss]

Im just glad to hear that your over 25.

Enjoy your cycle man.

Do your homework on the actual ergonomics of it and post cycle therapy.

Solid base, eat clean and big.

 

[Kristofer68ss]

Thanks man.

I'm doing 250mgx2 test e/week, 12 weeks, then clomid weeks 14-17

Should be a nice first cycle.

 

[keldon]

Awesome, thanks to you all for the advice and words of encouragement.

I will be logging my cycle too, so keep a eye out for it!

 

[ThisiswhatIdo]

Trust me man you will enjoy the results if you do everything right. You saw my pics from my cycle and i am only 7 weeks in and 21 pounds now and i am just a small guy and my metabolism is fast so i would have to eat a shit load for a long time and with the way i am active my body would burn all that shit. Just make sure you have a good post cycle therapy (pct) and you train right and rest and you will love it. Dont think just because you are on gear that you can cheat. And i am not disrespecting anyone here but i hear that all the time you should wait until your 20 pounds heavier or gain it naturally but seriously we are not pros here when it comes to gear and everyone isnt naturally big. What are you goin to tell a guy that is 5'11 and 195-200 thats a nice solid build are you goin to tell him to grow more naturally also fuck no. He is goin to take the stuff regardless whether you tell him he shouldnt or not. The purpose for these forums are to come here for advice regardless whatever our personally opinions are and move on. just tell the guy what you think but here is the right way to do it because i know your going to do it anyways and if he doesnt get out of it what he thought than thats his problem

 

[keldon]

Trust me man you will enjoy the results if you do everything right. You saw my pics from my cycle and i am only 7 weeks in and 21 pounds now and i am just a small guy and my metabolism is fast so i would have to eat a shit load for a long time and with the way i am active my body would burn all that shit. Just make sure you have a good post cycle therapy (pct) and you train right and rest and you will love it. Dont think just because you are on gear that you can cheat. And i am not disrespecting anyone here but i hear that all the time you should wait until your 20 pounds heavier or gain it naturally but seriously we are not pros here when it comes to gear and everyone isnt naturally big. What are you goin to tell a guy that is 5'11 and 195-200 thats a nice solid build are you goin to tell him to grow more naturally also fuck no. He is goin to take the stuff regardless whether you tell him he shouldnt or not. The purpose for these forums are to come here for advice regardless whatever our personally opinions are and move on. just tell the guy what you think but here is the right way to do it because i know your going to do it anyways and if he doesnt get out of it what he thought than thats his problem

Right. I seen your results and just like I said, it's very inspiring. No offense, but I think I'm in much better shape than you were before your cycle and you have had some amazing results. I just can't wait to see what it does for me.

 

[Teutonic]

...a grown man s gonna do what he want s to do...I d go for it. I too burn calories in my sleep like a mo fo...I wish you well..good health and ask away..I ll not bash or be critical...does not matter to me what you do...and i feel we should help you do it safely and effectively as YOU WILL DO IT ANY WAY , right.?
Peace

 

[ThisiswhatIdo]

lol im sure you were. i didnt do shit for the last 2 years but put in work my dude

Right. I seen your results and just like I said, it's very inspiring. No offense, but I think I'm in much better shape than you were before your cycle and you have had some amazing results. I just can't wait to see what it does for me.

 

[keldon]

lol im sure you were. i didnt do shit for the last 2 years but put in work my dude

How much pre-cycle training did you do?

 

[ThisiswhatIdo]

I didnt do shit honestly i maybe lifted for 2 weeks because of me knowing my gear was coming in. But after i hurt myself my last season running i havent picked up a weight. i maybe lifted once in the last 2 years and thats the honest to god truth

How much pre-cycle training did you do?

 

[surfdog]

In approximate percentages, what should my daily protein, carbs and fats look like? I'm thinking 50/30/20, is that close?[/QUOTE]

3J told me to try to stick to a 40/40/20 bro
I am pretty close unless I cheat that day

 

[R1rider]

...a grown man s gonna do what he want s to do...I d go for it. I too burn calories in my sleep like a mo fo...I wish you well..good health and ask away..I ll not bash or be critical...does not matter to me what you do...and i feel we should help you do it safely and effectively as YOU WILL DO IT ANY WAY , right.?
Peace

^^^ X2.
ask away and learn

 

[MightyMouse9999]

My gains stalled around wk10 and I felt the gear the most around wk7/8. Ran test e for 13wks and deca for 12 wks. Felt as though most of the weight I gained was water.

 

[ryan211]

Keldon you dont have to explain yourself to anyone man.

If you wanna do it, do it. Some people say dont take "shortcuts" etc well its your say. As long as your careful and do PROPER post cycle therapy (pct) and do MONTHS worth of research...steroids can be safe and yes they can be a shortcut....but whats wrong with that? Your money, your body, your time....YOUR decision. As members of a steroid forum, we should all help each other out on our steroid routines to the best of our knowledge..just my 2 cents.

 

[keldon]

I am going to do everything perfect, not missing a damn vitamin, meal, or calorie; I am getting everything I can, and more out of it.

Growing up smaller than most kids, I've wanted to be bigger my whole life, I'm just sorry I wasn't educated and determined about diet and exercise when I was younger.

It's funny though, being smaller than the other kids, I was always big at heart, and I was always the most feared kid through all my years in school. I was a scrappy little bastard.

Size is something I've wanted my whole life and no one can talk me out of it right now.

I do and will have questions, many of them, and I am glad there are so many honest, educated, and cool people here that are willing to help me out on this terrifying journey.

 

[llD3MONll]

My first cycle was test e and i was 190 when i started. got up to 215 . 208 after pct and still between 210-208 2 months after. so i lost 7lbs after i came off which was just water weight but still you loose noticable size when you come off

I started getting comments from everyone at the gym around week 7. i peaked out around week 12. but week 12-14 right before pct was the most intense feeling wise. It is noticable as hell man so if you dont like being accused of shit then try in stay stealthy about it. o and have diet in check or you wont have crazy gains.