why do you think people shuld reach their "genetic potential" b4 aas?

[CaptHowdy]

I think thats a load of shit. Cuz theres tons of people here that did not do that and it could take a lifetime to do it. Me personnelly i was living the life style 4 4yeas before i used anything. i never even thought about it. I lost 47 lbs in my first year and i weighed 155lbs lol. then from there on i bulked in the winter clean and then leaned down for summer. after all this time im like WHAT THE FUCK. no matter how clean i eat no matter how hard and or long I had been training i culd NEVER look like guys in magazines and shit. Then I find out its cuz they are using aas and i was like no way. and after doing tons of research cuz any 1 who knows me knows im a google freak. I was fucking shocked when I read about stallone and truck load of gh lol. Then i started noticing transformation in actors in like 6 months... gerard butler mickey rourke brad pitt CARROT TOP and that twilight kid. ReASONS Like this are what made me intrested in aas and i used steroids the first time right b4 my 5 year mark. Then finally i started looking what i wanted to look like and felt like all my hard work was finally paying off and i havnt looked back since. SOooo what you guys think?? Dont flame all the newbs lol not all of us are as dumb as you think!

 

[UserAt204]

There are too many reasons to list

Building a base to avoid injury
Having a solid base so you don't rely on drugs
Risking health issue when you don't need it
Waste of money when food can do the same
And to many more.

 

[ECKSRATED]

The guy from twilight!?!?!?? Dude if u wanna look like that fag then eat some rice cakes and water. He's a skinny toolbag!!! Wow

 

[UserAt204]

^^^. Ha ha. Exactly my thoughts. Fucking twilight.

 

[Cobra Strike]

There are too many reasons to list

Building a base to avoid injury
Having a solid base so you don't rely on drugs
Risking health issue when you don't need it
Waste of money when food can do the same
And to many more.

THIS!!! Its not bs bro...its just hard to hear because everyone wants to be FUCKIN JACKED AND TOUGH AS FUCK right now...but thats not what steroids are meant for...they arent magic pills. If they were so magic then why dont they work worth of shit without the proper diet? I worked out for 5 years before I started aas...and infact my body was already in great shape and now I have no stretch marks like my buddys and Im getting bigger than them off of this one cycle then they are off of 3. Plus during the 5 years of working out I learned alot about routines and dieting...so the time you spend naturally training is invaluable!!!

 

[UserAt204]

That's what happens cobra when they rely on AAS. Nothing else is in check first so they try to use AAS to fix it then wonder why others do so well on them. Next step will be they think they need to increase there dose which won't do anything more. Long story short they wont be tough as fuck

 

[nate212]

There are too many reasons to list

Building a base to avoid injury
Having a solid base so you don't rely on drugs
Risking health issue when you don't need it
Waste of money when food can do the same
And to many more.

^^^this. someone who is untrained can make really great gains in short time if motivated and get diet and training down. I got real good and fast gains from 15yo to 20y/o after that it has been slow. Just started first cycle at 34. When first lift you dont know what the fuck you doing, dope dont make you know what the fuck you doing.

 

[nate212]

That's what happens cobra when they rely on AAS. Nothing else is in check first so they try to use AAS to fix it then wonder why others do so well on them. Next step will be they think they need to increase there dose which won't do anything more. Long story short they wont be tough as fuck

or think that adding deca or whatever is the way to cure the joint problems that have been created.

 

[OmegaReign]

The guy from twilight!?!?!?? Dude if u wanna look like that fag then eat some rice cakes and water. He's a skinny toolbag!!! Wow

hahahaha, Im gonna start taking gear to look like the twilight kid, lmao. Will it turn me into a werewolf too, lol.

 

[UserAt204]

Solid advice Nate. Capt you called it out as bullshit, time to answer back.

 

[Cobra Strike]

or think that adding deca or whatever is the way to cure the joint problems that have been created.

awww man thanks for busting my bubble! I got this chronic jerkoffwristitis...i was gonna take 800mg deca a week to heal it quick...fuck

guess im gonna have to stop watching xhamster so much

 

[Cobra Strike]

solid advice nate. Capt you called it out as bullshit, time to answer back.

tick tock lol

 

[barrysanders]

To try and answer your question honestly it really is not bull shit. People say that because if your not able to get to your genetic predispostion naturally (or at least close to it) its very likely that gear is just going to be a waste of your time. Meaning, that people think that the drugs we take works instantly. Those of us who have been around for some time know thats just not the case. It takes years upon years to reach minimal goals. Hell, you have to bulk, then shred down to see what you got, then bulk again, then shred again...that right there is 18 months worth of work (if your doing 3 months on 3 months off like your suppose too).

But your also right in your thinking as well. Lots of people jump right into this game without knowing much. Most fail, very few succeed and give up or just stray away for a little while. If this is something that your dedicated to and are willing to make it a "life change" not just a "right now" change...then I say go for it with open arms. But if your not close to your genetic size whatsoever currently then see what you can accomplish through diet and exercise first to see if this is something that your going to want to do for years to come.

What really annoys me is when people come to the forums and say that they are unhappy with themselves and just want to do 1 cycle to bulk up or lean out. It just isnt going to happen and those people will go NO WHERE sorry to say.

My opinions & thoughts!!!!!!!

 

[UserAt204]

Cobra that deca only cycle will cure your problem. Your wrist will have a long break with the limp Willie.

 

[Cobra Strike]

Cobra that deca only cycle will cure your problem. Your wrist will have a long break with the limp Willie.

Ya your right there!!! Idea scratched!

 

[UserAt204]

Just use tren instead

 

[RJ]

man i feel like a proud poppa.

Nice work boys. Capt, get your head outta your ass. Building a mansion without a solid foundation = a worthless big ass house.

I would say the #1 reason is to avoid injury due to tendon/muscle misalignment.

 

[UserAt204]

Ha ha. ^^^^. We still wait around for the great analogies.

 

[CaptHowdy]

There are too many reasons to list

Building a base to avoid injury
Having a solid base so you don't rely on drugs
Risking health issue when you don't need it
Waste of money when food can do the same
And to many more.

This is the best response by far.^^^

And the twilight kid was an example of a person who obviously had not reached genetic potential and put on like 30 lbs of lean weight in a short period of time. read the dam thread man..

But let me get this straight you think that some 1 that has been training for 5 years and lives the life style shuldnt use gear cuz they could maybe make some more gains in another 10 years?

there are exceptions to who shuld and shuld not use gear. an 18 year old kid thats 130lbs wet is not a good candidate. All i am trying to say is that it can go both ways and there always exceptions to the "rules" in this case.
i love making these controversial posts. gets people fired up over something simple lol. the only bad part about this one is that it totally 1 sided cuz i know not all of u guys were maxed out genetically before using gear. and i wasnt either. i got up to 205 lbs with nothing but food. i and i got measured today at the dr and im jus barly 5 7" lol. so wen i see a guy thats my age 5foot 10 150lbs thats the guy you tell to hit the diet forum.
al in all, is it dum 4 sum jackass thats never trained before and eats 2 times a day to use gear cuz he says hes a "hard gainer?" YES! cuz hes just being a pussy! also all the reasons stated above and more.

ps i do not have any stretch marks either.

 

[CaptHowdy]

I went back and re- read everything and i still think its bullshit. there are exceptions. but who makes that choice? All one can do is give another advice from their own experiences. wich is y people shuldnt b breaking other peoples balls for not reaching "genetic potential." who even knows what that is cuz its different 4 every1. I say this cuz There are tons of people here who have NOT trained natty for very long first. even less then me and i had 5 solid years! i have journals every fucking bodybulding and diet book you can think of. millions of websites saved in my favorites. thats why they shuldt going around flaming other poeple for it, it annoys the shit outa me.

when i respond to a thread, i tell sum 1 else what i did from my own experiences and what happened to me. in my time using aas and total time training i have never had a training related injury. (knock on wood) I never tell sum 1 something if i just heard it sum where. i just got rid of gyno. so if i see a thread i like to help sum 1 else cuz mine was fucking stubborn and did NOt want to go away. all this is why i think its bulshit!!