Why the bad wrap???

are saying eq makes you more prone to injury? compared to what?

Im saying it does the same exact thing winstrol does ..increase tendon strength via collagen synthesis but doesnt improve cross link connectivity. This increases the likelyhood of injury. Especially if your on cycle making rapid strength gains.
 
Im saying it does the same exact thing winstrol does ..increase tendon strength via collagen synthesis but doesnt improve cross link connectivity. This increases the likelyhood of injury. Especially if your on cycle making rapid strength gains.

Well then the current collagen synthesis eq cycle I'm on is not helping me like I thought it was! Good to know even though I didn't want to hear that :-( I don't want to hijack this thread but it's dead anyway "there different" do you know of anything that improves cross link connectivity?
 
Well then the current collagen synthesis eq cycle I'm on is not helping me like I thought it was! Good to know even though I didn't want to hear that :-( I don't want to hijack this thread but it's dead anyway "there different" do you know of anything that improves cross link connectivity?

Bro I wish ! So elusive. Some say growth but the studies can show an increase in collagen synthesis but no improvement, in fact a decrease in cross link connectivity with hgh.
 
When it comes to a comparison EQ is not worth what Deca is.

Your going to legitimate pro users on both sides of the topic there isn't enough conclusive data to say %100 this one is better! You'll have to use em both and pick a side man Chevrolet or ford man!
I'm a eq fan myself only because I was told deca is harder on you Lobito!
 
Bro I wish ! So elusive. Some say growth but the studies can show an increase in collagen synthesis but no improvement, in fact a decrease in cross link connectivity with hgh.

Awe man this is not what I wanted to hear ha ha I thought I was making myself better with this cycle turns out no I should have gone with a regular aas cycle bummer!!
 
Your going to legitimate pro users on both sides of the topic there isn't enough conclusive data to say %100 this one is better! You'll have to use em both and pick a side man Chevrolet or ford man!
I'm a eq fan myself only because I was told deca is harder on you Lobito!

you are correct brother,deca will shut you down hard,but most of the time if you use 2:1 ratio of test,it doesnt affect you,well it doesnt me anyway and i usually only run my test 50-100mg higher than my deca,it effects everyone different
 
over the years I've become very tired of people assuming that deca is the culprit behind water retention... I've got news for those who believe that; it's not! nandrolone is way too anabolic, not androgenic enough to create the extreme bloating people claim

test is the evil one that causes nearly ALL of the bloat on cycle... the people that say deca bloats them have never ran deca without test so they wouldn't know

one of the most common stacks back in the early-mid 90's was deca/winny and it created some nice dry results

so in short.. if u are running an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) like arimidex along with some proviron to control any excess bloat from the test, deca added in will only provide an added benefit in lean muscle gains

there is a reason test/deca is still the "go-to" for most pro bodybuilders ;)
 
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Just seen a lot of negative wrap on eq lately. Everyone saying go deca instead. I like deca I have had good results from it in the past. But I never like gaining all that weight just to lose 60% of it.
I'm actually gonna b running some eq in the spring for the first time, and am quit looking forward to it. Is slow and steady gains out of fashion these days? Lol
Thanx for lookin and any opinions r appriciated.

I would try it out since you have it and report back. i have to do this i cant rely on forum advise (no offense) 100%. yes forums a great guideline for dosages and compounds what does what. how others react etc. its pretty much the only way you will know if you like it. the negativity is coming from bloodwork increased hemocrit levels. they you have to weight the pros and cons. is it worth it? I did like eq a lot but ill never run it again.
 
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