A$hleymdi$on.com?

[angryboxer]

I'm sure by now everyone's read the headlines from a few leading sites reporting that Ash#$%^&*adison took out an ad for superbowl (minimum of $1mil+ for 30sec ad spot) and was denied by FOX network (owned by NEWS Corp) on the grounds that it wasn't politically viable. WTF? Since when did companies learned to grow corporate ethics? and it's also an indication that (Ashleymadison) the site's promoting adultery had been a succeful business model gain major market share in this economy. Question to you all; While I find the success of the business model hardly believable (I think it's a scam), and if so, was it right to be denied of service of an advertising company when in fact, it's perfectly operating within the law? In other words, were they discriminated?

 

[Zero V]

I'm sure by now everyone's read the headlines from a few leading sites reporting that As$%^&*on took out an ad for superbowl (minimum of $1mil+ for 30sec ad spot) and was denied by FOX network (owned by NEWS Corp) on the grounds that it wasn't politically viable. WTF? Since when did companies learned to grow corporate ethics? and it's also an indication that (Ashleymadison) the site's promoting adultery had been a succeful business model gain major market share in this economy. Question to you all; While I find the success of the business model hardly believable (I think it's a scam), and if so, was it right to be denied of service of an advertising company when in fact, it's perfectly operating within the law? In other words, were they discriminated?

It should definitely be denied, it creates moral problems. It teaches people that being a liar and a cheat is ok. It says its okay to hurt people, to rip peoples lives apart, etc. In all honesty its a horrible side effect of our nations moral weakness that such a thing exists.

I would love to see some kinda regulations put in place t put an end to crap like that. And honestly the people who run it should be gutted like pigs. Scum.

 

[joei rock]

im with zero... wtf hapen to this counties morals and values...

 

[angryboxer]

It should definitely be denied, it creates moral problems. It teaches people that being a liar and a cheat is ok. It says its okay to hurt people, to rip peoples lives apart, etc. In all honesty its a horrible side effect of our nations moral weakness that such a thing exists.

I would love to see some kinda regulations put in place t put an end to crap like that. And honestly the people who run it should be gutted like pigs. Scum.

In terms of the morality issue and corporate responsibility, I'm there with ya. But at the same time, we can also argue that if corporate sponsors were to be carefully chosen through strict screening process as to who gets to put their ads and who don't, what kind of rules do you think should apply? Believe me, I think such website is morally bankrupt, but are we talking in terms of the damage such service can cause as you've mentioned above or how should we set the values of these companies... just playing devil's advocate here, but anyone can just as argue that a beer company does not earn the ad spot on the grounds, considering how many alcohol related death are caused a year or how many deaths related to college binge drinking culture (usually natty lights, coorslights, keystone..hehe) or drunk driving in general, should they be held accountable?... just saying. Point is that we can't babysit our country, but the responsibility should fall on the user itself and not us. And while my opinion about the above said site is same as you all, my question was "Being denied of service, were they discriminated against?"

 

[Zero V]

In terms of the morality issue and corporate responsibility, I'm there with ya. But at the same time, we can also argue that if corporate sponsors were to be carefully chosen through strict screening process as to who gets to put their ads and who don't, what kind of rules do you think should apply? Believe me, I think such website is morally bankrupt, but are we talking in terms of the damage such service can cause as you've mentioned above or how should we set the values of these companies... just playing devil's advocate here, but anyone can just as argue that a beer company does not earn the ad spot on the grounds, considering how many alcohol related death are caused related to college binge drinking culture (usually natty lights, coorslights, keystone..hehe) or drunk driving in general... just saying. Point is that we can't babysit our country, but the responsibility should fall on the user itself and not us. And while my opinion about the above said site is same as you all, my question was "Being denied of service, were they discriminated against?"

Discrimination is NOT a bad thing in every instance.

I discriminate against rapists, child molesters, murderers, and people who are racist against white people lol. The biggest problem with America is "Over tolerance" not discrimination anymore.

We need to look at things, situations, etc and say "You are not good for people, for us, or for the nation. You have been weighed, you have been measured, and you have been found wanting" and kick em out. Look at America, you are playing devils advocate, but this is the result of the devils playground....A society destroyed, with no trust or value....

I plan on running my own business, I also plan on registering it as a Christian organization which would allow me to have employees sign Morality Clauses....as in I can fire em for such things as adultery, even though its non-work related.

Bad moral values in a person, create a bad community. If your not willing to separate them from the group, the whole group starts to sour. If people do not make stands, and literally say "No, your not good enough" then the sewage floods everywhere.

If a guy comes up to you for a job app, has a twitchy eye, a history of stabbing people, you gona hire him? Maaaan why you discriminating

 

[cjw2021]

FOX has the right to show what they want on their network. I'm amazed a site like ashle$%^&*.com would have 1m in cash to spend but hey, I guess there is a large market for debauchery. lol I find it disgusting and I'm sure many people would complain and Fox's reputation would be damaged, so in the end they did the right thing. Should it be banned and censored like in communist China? No.

 

[tednatas]

oh come on...really?

This is bullshit...guess what marrige is a joke! Maybe not yours if you're happy but as a whole? the divorce rate is high for a reason. Guess what I'm offended that I have to here about god all the time but I don't protest to have it stripped from our currency.

But if you believe in ghosts i will laugh at you're lack of logic

 

[mich29]

I hate fox as a network but they have the right to deny what they want.

 

[tednatas]

of course Fox can do what they want.

So can we...Like what we talk about on this very forum. Do you think Fox would show a commercial pimping 'ology and the use of Aas? Nope.. Would 3/4 of the viewers of said super bowl approve of what we talk about on here? No. Is marriage legal for gay people? No...

Are you wanting steroids to be legal? If you answered no you would certainly change your mind if you ever got popped I'm sure. It comes down to one thing when someone is offended, and that's there own sensitivities.. If you really believe in the basis of democracy you would never question a man or woman's right to be free in the purest sense of the world.

I guess you could argue that Fox and Fox news are separate entities...But that to me isn't supporting the free market which is the basis of the right these days. Well that and preying on your christian values for their profit margin. If you really want to be "fair and balanced" you would take that cash from anyone giving it. You wouldn't deny it based on taste... i doubt the AM commercial was ever more lewd than say go daddy commercial or whatever else. Sex sells and fox has been exploiting that just as much as any other network.

To me it's a non issue I just hate to see Fox get any credit for sanding the moral highground on this one...


Tednatas.....

 

[RJ]

To me it's a non issue I just hate to see Fox get any credit for sanding the moral highground on this one...


Tednatas.....

i agree totally. Its funny how people always use certain logic when it comes to explain their thoughts on morals and values, yet it always comes off contradictory.

We have those AM commercials here in Atlanta on the radio and i think they are hilarious. Takes some balls to promote something like that.

The problem with Americans is their lack of responsibility for themselves so they think the right thing is to just deny everyone the right to do what they want because they believe it is morally wrong. Yes, adultery is wrong, but comparing adulterers to rapists and child molesters is fucking stupid.

Do i think its right? No, but a website like that doesn't make me change my mind about infidelity. Same reason a website promoting skat fetishes doesn't change my mind about wanting my wife to shit on my chest.

Its all about mental weakness. Which is what plagues Americans. Weak minded people need someone else to tell them that everything will be ok. Tell them is they act a certain way they will be rewarded. They can't think for themselves so they look to others/things. One of those is God.

Sad really.

 

[angryboxer]

i agree totally.. They can't think for themselves so they look to others/things. One of those is God.

Sad really.

Ouch!>> Didn't wanna go there cuz people don't just get upset, they tend to get irate and refuse to rationalize any logic in religion. I feel there's not enough facts to debate, seriously, the truth about religion, but people will tell you different. Funny thing is people have fought for thousands of years till present in the name of religion. Where's the merit in that? Idk...

 

[RJ]

Ouch!>> Didn't wanna go there cuz people don't just get upset, they tend to get irate and refuse to rationalize any logic in religion. I feel there's not enough facts to debate, seriously, the truth about religion, but people will tell you different. Funny thing is people have fought for thousands of years till present in the name of religion. Where's the merit in that? Idk...

Zero and i have talked about this in the past and agreed to disagree. And he should know this wasn't directed at him, or anyone of religion. You believe what you wanna believe. I respect his opinions as he does mine.

Just like everything with most Americans nowadays, not just religion, people do nothing but blame others first instead of looking within for whats wrong with themselves. Seeking elsewhere is rarely the answer in my experience.

 

[nerdalert]

Zero and i have talked about this in the past and agreed to disagree. And he should know this wasn't directed at him, or anyone of religion. You believe what you wanna believe. I respect his opinions as he does mine.

Just like everything with most Americans nowadays, not just religion, people do nothing but blame others first instead of looking within for whats wrong with themselves. Seeking elsewhere is rarely the answer in my experience.

Well said RJ, there is a real problem in society with people not accepting responsibility for their actions. It is so much easier to place blame on the government or the schools or whoever else as long as they don't have to admit that they might be part of the problem.

 

[angryboxer]

Exactly my point

Zero and i have talked about this in the past and agreed to disagree. And he should know this wasn't directed at him, or anyone of religion. You believe what you wanna believe. I respect his opinions as he does mine.

Just like everything with most Americans nowadays, not just religion, people do nothing but blame others first instead of looking within for whats wrong with themselves. Seeking elsewhere is rarely the answer in my experience.

As we all do, I have my reservations about, specially, religion and politics. After pissing enough people about the topic stated here (at work, home, family, gf's family... etc), I just learned to shut da hell up when topics came up in discussions. Not that I'm afraid to have intelligent conversations about the topics, but I saw how far people would take to prove their illogical points and try to validate their beliefs on ya. You can't exchange ideas of the world... or anything for that matter when they only choose to see the convenient truths of it and ignore the rest. People can't handle the truth IMO and that's why I'm a LONER!

 

[angryboxer]

And yes, I'm a sinner!

 

[RJ]

Praise the lord...

71-Year-Old Ex-Minister Accused Of Child Porn - News Story - WSB Atlanta

 

[angryboxer]

Jah-zzeus! Really!?. How's that even possible? RJ, I'm tired of your non-sense bullshit. "How, then, can you explain the billions (I think in the 2.5) of believers on this planet?"... [one time a jr.pastor's choice of comeback as a validation of his religion.... very scientific]


71-Year-Old Ex-Minister Accused Of Child Porn - News Story - WSB Atlanta[/QUOTE]


There's no way the god's servants could have commited such cruel acts. Wow. . . that's a first!

**Lucrative business though! "Non-profit org. in the name of lord" = "approved "tax-free" pillaging opps. financially, mentally, sexually? " all year around!


**Opinions stated above are completely fictional and not to be taken seriously.

Like Bill Maher, another sinner who has the same ill fate as myself...to hell, said, [It's like the lotto. "You can't get saved if you don't play"]

 

[tednatas]

Praise the lord...

71-Year-Old Ex-Minister Accused Of Child Porn - News Story - WSB Atlanta

Horrible, just horrible.

 

[Zero V]

You guys should watch walking with the apes....its a new movie being shown in college about evolution...Where they finally do new DNA tests and prove we are NOT descendants of any monkey/ape...and they now have no idea where we came from, our genes are too unique.

Huh...there goes the theory of evolution

As for the minister....well by that ideology all cops are crooks, all atheists have no moral values and are wicked and will backstab you, all muslims fly airplanes into buildings....etc,etc...Your essentially using the same thing a racist does, choosing one failure and using it to insult the whole.

You should know better RJ, I am all for keeping it intelligent and civil...if you are able to.

To us a minister doing that is like a fallen angel, a servant of the enemy. A way for him to destroy trust in God and ruin families and peoples lives. Following God does not make anyone impervious to the influence of the enemy, but if their heart is in it it can make them quite resistant.

Americas problem, is too many different opinions living in one place. It is mans nature to destroy that which opposes, it is mans nature to overcome that which impedes his progress. America has not moved forward in years due to the left and right, and wont until America breaks apart into smaller nations and each one takes on its own United view.

 

[RJ]

Did you just call me stupid Zero?

Listen, i don't make excuses for people to justify the bullshit i believe in. Which is what you did. I didn't lump every person "of god" together because of this sick fuck. It was actually a joke as I saw it right after i read this thread, which you once again turned into a chance to spew religion as the answer. I don't need to watch some video about evolution. You know why? Because you want me to watch it so I will believe that evolution is bullshit. So you can be right and prove more of your god crap is the answer.

You stop doing that and I'll stop giving my opinion on how much bullshit it is. The truth is you have no idea what God's will is, nor if their is a God. You just 'believe' in him and all the crap you were taught. Thats my biggest problem with religion.

I never claim to know what is really out there, or why were here, or how we got here. The truth is, i don't give a fuck. I enjoy every minute of life because its my life, not because of some god damn fairy tale that i was told to believe 'just because' when i was a kid and didn't have the balls to question why?

So I'm not gonna get mention another thing about religion again, especially with you because a) you basically just called me ignorant and b) you have a closed mind when it comes to the fairy tale. I don't try to sway anyone's opinion by spitting out shit that I have no idea if its true or not.

I just live.