About Lyle alzado's Death....

[Micromegas]

thats who i was thinking of... Ya you are right. With a lot of these guys tied to Anabolic Androgenic Steroids (AAS) is usually some rec drug behind it too. I read a interview he had with meone and said he had no clue how much to use or even how long and was to scared to ask, he spent he last years on Hormone Replacement Therapy (HRT). I just wanted to say that there is a point where you are using to much and too long with no clue what you are doing is a dissaster and it has to be unhealthy, just don't want some kid to think that Anabolic Androgenic Steroids (AAS) is some benign drug.

Obvioously Anabolic Steroids aren't "benign" drugs but the fact of the matter is that ANY drug used in excess can cause health problems. If you start taking several tylenol a day you'll probably encounter health problems.

But the fact of the matter is the meda extremly overstates the dangers of Anabolic Steroids(And all other illegal drugs) to the point of comedy. The media would have you believe that if you take a single steroid pill you'll turn into some muscle head roid raging lunatic who will die from cancer or liver disease in a few months.

In reality these guys who are having these extreme health issues(And I've never seen any studies linking steroid use to brain cancer) are popping steroid pills like skittles and injecting 50x the amount that would be considered safe and STILL they don't die for several years(sometimes more) of this extreme constant careless use.

Let me put it this way...If anabolic steroids were anywhere near as dangerous as the media makes them out to be,We'd be seeing professional bodybuilders(all of whom use steroids) dropping dead like flies. In reality the death rate among bodybuilders and the rates of liver or kidney disease or any other disease is LOWER than among the normal population. Meaning Pro-bodybuilders are HEALTHIER than the normal population as a whole.


But all i'm doing is preaching to the Choir here probably....

 

[thee12nv]

I though his death was attributed to brain cancer via the pre synthezized days of HGH. That he caught a virus from the HGH he used because back then they extracted it from the pit. glands of corpses?

 

[Micromegas]

I though his death was attributed to brain cancer via the pre synthezized days of HGH. That he caught a virus from the HGH he used because back then they extracted it from the pit. glands of corpses?

Who knows....

 

[toodles]

large doses of steroids (like many of the cycles seen on this board) are very bad for your health. you need to come to terms with that.

 

[Rokomuscle1]

I though his death was attributed to brain cancer via the pre synthezized days of HGH. That he caught a virus from the HGH he used because back then they extracted it from the pit. glands of corpses?

That stuff was called "Gnorm" and it was taken from the pituitary gland of cadavers....

 

[parrish]

Yep EXACTLY!!
Which contributed to the growth of any cancerous growth in the system.GH can help grow the good as well as the bad in your body including cancerous cells.So steroids is just somthing the media comes up with to put the blame as get a good story.Then after they finish writing the story they do a gram,fuck around on their wives and try to keep the skeletons in their closets
Ken Camenitti took steroids to treat his back injury witch helped him land a 5 year $30,000,000. contract,FUCK I would do the same! At least if he hurts somone it's only himself which politicians fuck everyone over and get rich.His pain for his back made him take painkillers (perscribed legaly)and that lead to harder drugs then overdose.Great ballplayer too and his legacy is "killed by steroids"???



=thefantom1]That stuff was called "Gnorm" and it was taken from the pituitary gland of cadavers....[/QUOTE]

 

[Slayer]

Someone may have posted this already, but there is an HBO program on steroids hosted by (I think his name is Gumble,,,,his brother use to be on the today show) and they interview Alzado's doctor and he said there is no evidence that his death was caused by steroids. I posted a link to it here once.

 

[king dookie]

alzado died from cjd,creutzfeld jacobs disease,human form of mad cow disease.not cancer,but close enough.in the late 70's,and early 80's athletes who experminted w/ growth hormone,were at high risk.due to fact it was brought out of russia.the point-it was taken out of any cadaver,they weren't checked.for any old nasty disease or bacteria.pleasant suprise you think?not.

 

[DocJ]

alzado died from cjd,creutzfeld jacobs disease,human form of mad cow disease.not cancer,but close enough.in the late 70's,and early 80's athletes who experminted w/ growth hormone,were at high risk.due to fact it was brought out of russia.the point-it was taken out of any cadaver,they weren't checked.for any old nasty disease or bacteria.pleasant suprise you think?not.

That is correct CJD.

 

[truck]

I totally agree with the fact that Anabolic Androgenic Steroids (AAS) use is killed by the media and blamed for a lot of stupid problems. For ken he was ignorant in what he did if he would of just found out how to use it he might still be around plus the issue with the nose candy. Whats 30k if you can't be around to spend it. I'm not totally blaming Anabolic Androgenic Steroids (AAS) for eithers death but I'm sure it contributed.

 

[JohnnyB]

I watched another interview where some doctor claimed Lyle's doctor confirmed he didn't die of steroids.

I seen that too, it was on HBO, maybe it can be found on their website. He said lyle's mom died from the samething

JohnnyB

 

[Micromegas]

http://www.****************/articledata/hbosteroids/

http://www.****************/articledata/hbosteroids/HBO-Real-Sports-steroid-special.avi

I can't view it right now since I am on 56k.

 

[house1]

ken camineti..

he used aas, and also used cocaine. Ugly combination.

he died of a coke over dose not steroid use

 

[house1]

alzado died from cjd,creutzfeld jacobs disease,human form of mad cow disease.not cancer,but close enough.in the late 70's,and early 80's athletes who experminted w/ growth hormone,were at high risk.due to fact it was brought out of russia.the point-it was taken out of any cadaver,they weren't checked.for any old nasty disease or bacteria.pleasant suprise you think?not.

yup -- -- very diseased

 

[getfitdoc]

he died of a coke over dose not steroid use

agreed.

i didn't mean to imply his death was due to steroid use.

I was just saying he used both.

I didn't know he actually died of an OD though. Sucks.

 

[joltan]

Cancer is caused by toxins in the body. Years ago there was no such thing as cancer because there were no over the counter/under the counter drugs like there are today, and food was not processed like it is today. All disease and sickness comes from too many toxins in the body, if our bodys were perfectly clean of toxins and our bodys ph level was alkaline all the time, you would never get sick. Wild animals live to be 200 years old, because there not living in the toxic realm that us humans do. So yes, steroids do cause cancer. Every single DRUG contains toxins, and is unhealthy to the body and can cause cancer and many other illnesses. Now adays are bodys are evolving into the acidic state where virtually all of the food we eat has toxins. We are getting sicker than ever, and also taking more drugs than ever. Odd huh? The soap and shampoo and our toothpaste all contains deadly toxins. Therefore pretty much 99% of the food we eat is going to kill us or make us suscepitble to disease and illness. Taking any drug for that matter weakens your immune system, makes your body ph very acidic, and makes you more prone to all illness including cancer. Even using a microwave causes cancer. Did you know that if you put a bird three feet away and start cooking with nonstick cookware you will kill the bird from the toxins?

 

[getfitdoc]

then why is life expectancy so much higher now than it used to be

 

[joltan]

then why is life expectancy so much higher now than it used to be

They put those statistics out so you believe that drugs are infact keeping you alive when really they are slowly killing you. THe fda and the ftc have more money and more power than any other, its a monopoly and the statistics you read today are paid for by this industry. Tv stations run mostly off money from the pharmeceutical industry, they are brainwashing you. I will say though that surgery is keeping people alive longer, and life support that many people are on. But do you really consider someone on life support living?

 

[joltan]

getfitdoc, if your really a doctor than you know that the pharmaceutical industry pays you big money in incentives to keep prescribing patients these drugs. so they can keep making money. they have more money than any other industry and they have the power to make there own laws. Did you know that politicians can buy stock based on insider information?? Does it suprise you virtually all this stock is in drug companys? and they make more money in stocks than anyone else? the goverment is corrupt and this industry is pouring millions of dollars in politicians pockets.

 

[getfitdoc]

so you think that the life expectancy in the USA is not what they say it is?

btw im not a doctor. its just a catchy screen name.

i'm not 100% sold on conspiracy theories, but i do think that you have some good pts.

But the bird thing you said. It wasn't true for me. I used to have a cockateil and i would cook with it on my shoulder(within 3 ft) in a non stick pan. It never died. Not saying that it won't happen, but it didn't happen to my bird. the bird did however fly away one day.