THE-DET-OAK
IncreasedMyT @ ULV
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Ask Anything You Want about TRT Thread........
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Pantalones
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Too bad there's not a way to talk a doc into adding some prop 
If I did get some of my own, could I draw the two into the syringe (cyp and prop) and inject them both at the same time? That'd save needles.
If I did get some of my own, could I draw the two into the syringe (cyp and prop) and inject them both at the same time? That'd save needles.
THE-DET-OAK
IncreasedMyT @ ULV
You can get prop from a doc.
Pantalones
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I don't even know how to initiate that conversation though. I've never been good at pusuading docs, and it took a lot to talk him into injections in the first place. Is that an extremely uncommon request? I'm sure not many guys have their doctors incorporate anything other than cyp or enth. Which I guess leads me to my next question.
I've read up on guys who swear cyp does nothing for them, yet seem to do better on enth for whatever reason. My guess is its due to individuality and the inability of some to process the cyp ester. Is it worth a shot to just go in there and say
"You know, I'm not really noticing anything here doc. You remember how well I responded to the androgel, I gained 40 pounds, but now its hard to even put on a single pound. I was hoping maybe we could switch up the type of testosterone?"
I don't know, that shit's always awkward for me. Then there's the thought that since my last blood work came back in the lower 1,000's, that means the cyp is being cleaved of the ester and is actually working in my blood? Could they detect it in the lab if it was still bound to the ester?
Thanks Det.
ws2006
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Ask anything thread - I like it and wish I would have noticed it sooner!
I am preparing to split my test cyp dose into twice weekly injections of 100 mg and am not sure what to do with the rest of my protocol schedule. I have read to inject Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) on the same day, before and after .... would love to hear thoughts on when would be best - I believe it is .5 ml of 10,000 iu on my fourth and fifth day now when I inject only once weekly - I had it posted incorrectly in a previous post. I have also read that, due to Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) half life and peak times, it does not really do any good to inject it on consecutive days.
It was mentioned in a separate post that .5 dex three times a week might be too much so thought of cutting it back to twice weekly but, again, don't know where to fit into my schedule with twice weekly injections - guessing the day after but not sure. I guess the question here is what would a typical regimen look like with twice weekly injections versus once?
I am preparing to split my test cyp dose into twice weekly injections of 100 mg and am not sure what to do with the rest of my protocol schedule. I have read to inject Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) on the same day, before and after .... would love to hear thoughts on when would be best - I believe it is .5 ml of 10,000 iu on my fourth and fifth day now when I inject only once weekly - I had it posted incorrectly in a previous post. I have also read that, due to Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) half life and peak times, it does not really do any good to inject it on consecutive days.
It was mentioned in a separate post that .5 dex three times a week might be too much so thought of cutting it back to twice weekly but, again, don't know where to fit into my schedule with twice weekly injections - guessing the day after but not sure. I guess the question here is what would a typical regimen look like with twice weekly injections versus once?
THE-DET-OAK
IncreasedMyT @ ULV
I prefer a 5 day schedule. I never take my Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) on the same day as my test and I take my adex on day of HCG, if im taking any at that time.
Sometimes, depending on how low you were to begin with, 100-150 on that schedule should work well in general.
Are you having estrogen sides?
THE-DET-OAK
IncreasedMyT @ ULV
Well I don't know if I would remind him that you gained 40 lbs lol, but it is hard for me to relate because I would just tell them what I wanted and why, and if they could not give me a logical explanation of why not, then I would stand my ground. Just make sure you don't get too scientific with your doc, they may take that as an insult to there intelligence. Just tell them you have done some of your own research and think it is worth a try based on other people's experiences and is as long as you don't go over your weekly prescribed dose, what is the difference for them?
ws2006
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No estrogen sides at all from what I can tell - I crashed at the end of my first two weeks but guessed that was due to the seven day injection cycle. I did over inject the Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) by double the first two weeks due to misunderstanding the protocol (my fault - hope I did not screw anything up for that time period or set myself back) but have remedied for this week and moving forward. Is there a consensus on when to inject the Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) and how often - twice weekly, before or after test?
Thanks for all the help!
Thanks for all the help!
Pantalones
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I wonder why I saw results much more rapidly from my first time on androgel than cyp. I always just assumed injectables are top of the testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) totem pole. I guess I could just wait it out, eat heavy, lift heavy, and pray?
THE-DET-OAK
IncreasedMyT @ ULV
It sounds to me like you don't need the adex.
I have been on testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) for about 6 months due to a legit low T issue, My test was almost non existant at 70ng at 29 years old, In the beginning my doc had me at 300mg per week, since then, after reading here I switched to 220 mg every five days. I am currently bulking and want to get everything I can out of the test, can I up the dose for a few weeks and then reduce it again during the cutting stage?
Thanks
Thanks
Also, I just started Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) at 500iu with .5mg adex twice per week...
THE-DET-OAK
IncreasedMyT @ ULV
When guys have LowT there maybe cases where the doc thinks a higher dose would have more benefit than risk, for a short time.
When trying to preserve weight a much lower dose is good, but when adding some a higher dose is definitely more effective.
I take my Adex on the days I take my HCG.
When trying to preserve weight a much lower dose is good, but when adding some a higher dose is definitely more effective.
I take my Adex on the days I take my HCG.
Does that mean that someone could take say 300-400mg every 5 days for a few weeks, then cut back to the prescribed dose?
Pantalones
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Hey Det, when your results come back for a testosterone lab, do the numbers only show the T that is unbound to the ester, or can it also detect the T that is still attatched? I think that with the ester it would have a different composition all together wouldn't it?
Thanks
Thanks
11 months into HRT, no Libido
Next week will begin the 11th month that I have been on Hormone Replacement Therapy (HRT), and I still have no libido, which was one of the main reasons I started HRT in the first place. My E2 has always been fine; in fact it stays around 32-34 with no Aromatase inhibitor (AI) at all. My total and free T are OK, but my SHBG is a bit low, which I know makes it difficult to get any results. In fact, I really have never felt much of anything on HRT besides a very slight feeling of being able to think better. I have been on HGH for 5 months as well and that has not really done anything either besides make my hands hurt.
I am not depressed, not on any medications other than HRT and I am in overall good health, although I have been trying without success to lose a few pounds. My diet is pretty solid and I make sure to get at least 150 grams of protein a day and get fresh vegetables every day, I don’t drink soda at all, rarely drink alcohol, and when I drink it will be one glass of wine or one or two beers at a maximum and I never drink hard alcohol. I don’t smoke and have never smoked in the past. I exercise 5-6 days a week with 3 days of weights and 3 of cardio. My knees ache if I try to do cardio every day.
I don’t know what else to try at this point? Guys will suggest Cialis or Viagra, but that doesn’t help if you have no libido in the first place. Oh, and I will turn 48 next week.
Any ideas greatly appreciated!
Next week will begin the 11th month that I have been on Hormone Replacement Therapy (HRT), and I still have no libido, which was one of the main reasons I started HRT in the first place. My E2 has always been fine; in fact it stays around 32-34 with no Aromatase inhibitor (AI) at all. My total and free T are OK, but my SHBG is a bit low, which I know makes it difficult to get any results. In fact, I really have never felt much of anything on HRT besides a very slight feeling of being able to think better. I have been on HGH for 5 months as well and that has not really done anything either besides make my hands hurt.
I am not depressed, not on any medications other than HRT and I am in overall good health, although I have been trying without success to lose a few pounds. My diet is pretty solid and I make sure to get at least 150 grams of protein a day and get fresh vegetables every day, I don’t drink soda at all, rarely drink alcohol, and when I drink it will be one glass of wine or one or two beers at a maximum and I never drink hard alcohol. I don’t smoke and have never smoked in the past. I exercise 5-6 days a week with 3 days of weights and 3 of cardio. My knees ache if I try to do cardio every day.
I don’t know what else to try at this point? Guys will suggest Cialis or Viagra, but that doesn’t help if you have no libido in the first place. Oh, and I will turn 48 next week.
Any ideas greatly appreciated!
BigBam
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Newtohrt, I feel for you bruh..Sexual function was 1 of the reasons I also turned to Hormone Replacement Therapy (HRT). I never really suffered from low libido, my main issue was the lack of seriously hard wood..I have type 2 diabetes & elevated blood pressure, that along with medicines prescribed for the affliction played a huge part with my problems...I've been on HRT for about 4 months..200mg cyp...1/4 tab of arimidex 3x's a week & 2iu's of hgh mon-fri...also started taking Cialis 5mg daily dose & I gotta tell ya, I'm blowing my wife's back out 4x's a week..sometimes twice a day. You may want to re-consider the Cialis small dose daily, the doc @ my clinic also mentioned horny goat weed as an option. I've been a lurker on here for about 3 months, but from all I've seen & read you may want to give the guys @ IMT a shout or perhaps DET OAK will step in, they both appear to be pretty knowledgeable about this hrt process...Good luck my man
Megatron28
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Do you have problems getting erections or is that part working just fine?
I have trouble with that as well, but its more of having no libido in the first place.
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