Thanks guys, appreciate the input. Im still trying to do some digging around on this growth though, mainly because the guy has a really good line of gear, with wicked reviews all over the net and not a single bad one, so far I've tried his test cyp and sdrol and I have some NPP DBol n more Cyp on the way, plus I made better gains on 400mg of his cup and 30 of sdrol than on 500mg tren and 800mg eq from inno. now I know that gear and growth are two completely different things and good gear doesn't mean his growth is any good but I haven't completely given up hope since he seems like a pretty stand up guy and it would be really out of character to sell something bunk.. anyway the link I'm putting below is what I've been able to find about this Citadel Somatropin GH brand that I'm trying to get info on, I really respect the opinion of the guy who posted the info as well, he seems to be a stand up member who knows his shit which is another reason why Im still looking into this brand, he even had the GH tested by *** and posted the test results in the post as well. Again, anyone with any info on it, or anyone that's tried it, please chime in.. if after this I still can't get any feed back I'm just gonna write it off and stick with his gear. ***op, Thanks in advance bros!!