Do you beat your kids?

[Mrs P]

hitting/spanking is teaching through fear, and a lazy approach.....

im a child psych, so iv seen enuff shit

i wont go into a debate, its jmo

as for the children who 'own' there parents, these are the kids that are the ones usually being spanked, they 'own' their parents because the parenting is weak

if the parent has set expectations, limits, and subsequent consequences, all through verbal communication.....the hand should never have to be raised

how can you tell a child not to hit someone else,when you hit them?

I agree, I have 9, 7, 3 year old (girls) & they know that there are consequences to their actions..My dad was tough with us, & my brothers got their share of spankings, & They did listen to him, but did they really listen, or were they just scared of him ?

I don't judge his parenting, he was a great Dad & did the best job he could.
I learned from his parenting, & but realized like all parents made his share of mistakes. I don't want my kids to be scared of me, I want them to respect me.. Fear is not the same thing as respect.

I believe in tough love, and I will follow through with their punishment, but I think they learn more if you talk to them, teach them, guide them, and what ever type of punishment you apply (Depends on the age: Timeouts, take away toys, etc) Than if you hit them... Discipline is important & kids need boundaries, but hitting IMO is not the answer.

 

[RJ]

Is all in good fun RJ, he's using this name for a week & then he changes it...But I didn't expect u to get it

(BTW he didn't choose the name, it's name that had the most votes)

i know little lady... i just like fucking with the midget.

 

[RJ]

rj, the mrs is a social worker? if so, really a labor of love that doesnt get enuff credit for what they do, that is one fkn tuff job

you got a good woman there

nope, detective. works alot with crimes against children. don't know how she does it really. I'd have killed some of them fuckers by now.

but thanks, she is a great woman.

 

[rocko3927]

all for spanking appropriately. i am a middle child have a older bro and younger sis. growing up, if we lying my parents would brake out the truth ring. it's was nothing more than a mood ring but at 4 years old who knew. if it changed colors we were lying. by the time my parents were going to get it we were already fessing up.lol as we got older we had court. we were sent to our rooms while mom and dad cooled down or whatever then we were allowed to explain our side of the story or simply admit guilt. then a choice of punishment would be presented. taking away of priviledges{ the atari },grounded, spanking, etc. i always took the ass whippen. hurt for a bit but then i was a free man.

 

[djm6464]

nope, detective. works alot with crimes against children. don't know how she does it really. I'd have killed some of them fuckers by now.

but thanks, she is a great woman.

i echo that.....its hard to restrain from the shitty father entering your office, that you want to remove his head from his shoulders cause he mistreats his son because he has a learning disability

iv heard alot of bad fkn shit related to kids....these people need to be put on an island and have it blown up

 

[riprockwell]

I don't have kids yet but I was spanked as a child with the damn belt. I wasn't afraid of my pops but afraid to screw up. Just my opinion and some might disagree, but I believe you have to have the edge with children. I just don't believe in babying kids. The majority of kids I see are not getting spanked at all. I believe that a good swat will make them wake up and associate acting out with that consequence.

Look back at education years and years ago and compare it to today's schools. To me, it is the direct result of lousy parenting and an overall lack of respect. Make the kids feel the burn for every screw up. We have turned too too Liberal. Again just my opinion. No arguments. The things that piss me off most about kids

1. Running around in stores screaming and crying
2. Interrupting adults while they are talking
3. Not saying Hi or responding to adults when you talk to them (I'm not talking infants)
4. Being sore losers when it comes to sports.
5. Disrespecting teachers and adults and their parents backing their little shitloaf child and taking their side.
6. Dictating what they eat and when.
7. Dressing like retards and their parents thinking it is cool.
8. Playing too much xbox all while getting as big as a house.

Those are just a few. I have seen very very few kids in the last year that were actually polite and respectful. Then again, judging from their parents, I realize why.

 

[DADAWG]

my inlaws thought i was a mionster because my kids were made to behave themselves and were whipped if they didnt.my sis in law let hers run wild. the funny thing is i very seldom had to whip my kids because they knew what would happen if the acted out but her kids needed a ASS WHUPPIN constantly.my kids gew up and got good solid jobs and became homeowners . and as far as her kids go now that they are grown up she know that they screwed up but its to late now.

one of my most hated things is a parent who creams t a kid whos being a jackass and threatens to whip their ass over and over , when me and the parent and even the kid all know its all talk.dont threaten if you dont mean it , when my kids were little and i said they werer going to get a spanking if tey didnt stop doing something they would stop asap lol.

 

[RJ]

i agree with you both Rip and Dawg. i can't stand weak ass parents. i don't care if you spank or not, have some damn balls. You're the parent, not their buddy. It drives me crazy how disrespectful kids are today. Well, alot of them are now in their twenties (i'm getting older) and still shitbags.

The only reason people use the 'times have changed' excuse is due to poor parenting and the overall feminization of our once great country. Everybody has to have pity.

unfortunately this doesn't apply only to children. Adults can be even worse.

We gotta call blacks African-Americans or we're not politically correct. i don't get pissed if no one calls me an Irish-American.

We gotta celebrate fat people and how obesity is fine as long as you love yourself.

We gotta medicate our kids into zombies because parents are too lazy to 'raise' their kids and think its better to plop them in front of a DVD to shut em up. Hence ADD, ADHD, etc. We all were hyper when we were kids. We went outside and played and got worn out.

I have 5 nieces and nephews that constantly, when we see them at family functions, have their heads stuck in one of those handheld gaming systems. you try and talk to them and they say things like 'yeah' or 'its a game'. Jesus christ i wanna throw those things outside.

this is the reason why there will never be a gaming system in my house. EVER. Fortunately my wife feels the same way.

 

[pickle bunny]

i agree with you both Rip and Dawg. i can't stand weak ass parents. i don't care if you spank or not, have some damn balls. You're the parent, not their buddy. It drives me crazy how disrespectful kids are today. Well, alot of them are now in their twenties (i'm getting older) and still shitbags.

The only reason people use the 'times have changed' excuse is due to poor parenting and the overall feminization of our once great country. Everybody has to have pity.
This is exactly right
unfortunately this doesn't apply only to children. Adults can be even worse.

We gotta call blacks African-Americans or we're not politically correct. i don't get pissed if no one calls me an Irish-American. Black is black. I am white please dont call me anglo saxon I am indeed whiteWe gotta celebrate fat people and how obesity is fine as long as you love yourself.
Lets just release all self respect and discipline nd call it Politically Correct

Same goes for gay marriageWe gotta medicate our kids into zombies because parents are too lazy to 'raise' their kids and think its better to plop them in front of a DVD to shut em up. Hence ADD, ADHD, etc. We all were hyper when we were kids. We went outside and played and got worn out. Or worked on the farm. We had chores and animals to care for, When I got that done I was allowed to ride my dirt bike
I have 5 nieces and nephews that constantly, when we see them at family functions, have their heads stuck in one of those handheld gaming systems. you try and talk to them and they say things like 'yeah' or 'its a game'. Jesus christ i wanna throw those things outside.

this is the reason why there will never be a gaming system in my house. EVER. Fortunately my wife feels the same way.

We were on vacation in Avalon NJ. Took my mother, sister and aunt out to a movie.
Nice family time. Woman sits behind us with 2 children. They are screamin, hittin each other. After about 7 minutes I wheel around and yelled "Hey lady you wanna cool those damn kids out. We're trying to watch the movie"
She got up and left and the theatre applauded!!!

 

[nate212]

I've got a 3 year old and a 1 year old. I just don't think spanking works as well as other methods for our kids. I have popped the 3 year old about twice once for gougeing the dogs eyes (was afraid she was going to get bit) and the other for going after her little sister's eyeballs.

Other than an occasion where there is immediate danger I just don't think it get the message accross to them. Additionally I find that when I feel motivated to give them a pop it is usually out of anger or frustration. In these situations, when I look at some of the decisions I have made I can attribute their behavior to me letting things get off schedule, they missed a nap, I gave one some diet coke (that was real dumb) or they got ahold of some sugar. After the fact, the feeling of hitting out of anger is really shitty.

The method that has worked well for us is when the temper tantrums happen just say that they have to go be alone till they are done crying. Crying hurts my ears. They hate it more than spanking and it causes behavior change you can see.

 

[nate212]

We were in the Jackson Mississippi airport going through the security scan deal. There was this woman with 2 kids, one about 4 the other about 6. We were getting our shit together and she starts yelling at the 4 year old then pulls out this belt and smacks the shit out of the kid 5 times or so. I'm talking a fucking beating man, this was a little kid. I dont know what he was doing and didn't fucking care at the time.

If she had done that to some one that wasn't her kid she would go sit in the fuckin houscow for assult. We talked to the airport rent-a-cops about it and they said she can do whatever she wants to her kids. Fucked up in my mind. Thats some bitch losing it on her kid. Not constructive at all.

 

[riprockwell]

i agree with you both Rip and Dawg. i can't stand weak ass parents. i don't care if you spank or not, have some damn balls. You're the parent, not their buddy. It drives me crazy how disrespectful kids are today. Well, alot of them are now in their twenties (i'm getting older) and still shitbags.

The only reason people use the 'times have changed' excuse is due to poor parenting and the overall feminization of our once great country. Everybody has to have pity.

unfortunately this doesn't apply only to children. Adults can be even worse.

We gotta call blacks African-Americans or we're not politically correct. i don't get pissed if no one calls me an Irish-American.

We gotta celebrate fat people and how obesity is fine as long as you love yourself.

We gotta medicate our kids into zombies because parents are too lazy to 'raise' their kids and think its better to plop them in front of a DVD to shut em up. Hence ADD, ADHD, etc. We all were hyper when we were kids. We went outside and played and got worn out.

I have 5 nieces and nephews that constantly, when we see them at family functions, have their heads stuck in one of those handheld gaming systems. you try and talk to them and they say things like 'yeah' or 'its a game'. Jesus christ i wanna throw those things outside.

this is the reason why there will never be a gaming system in my house. EVER. Fortunately my wife feels the same way.

Exactly. This is the straight up truth. I am so tired of people having unruly children. People's shitty mentalities have affected our great country. There is no consequences for actions anymore. The other day, I was at Chilis eating in a booth in the bar/lounge section. This little girl around 3 years old was running around the bar area. Of course young mom wasn't watching her. A server was walking out with a tray with steaming ass hot fajitas on it and the server was walking and knocked the little girl on her ass. She was screaming and crying.

The mom jumped up out of her booth about 30 feet away and ran and picked up her kid and was asking her if she is OK. She was giving the server a mean ass look on her face. I commented, "hey your lucky that hot skillet didn't fall on your girl and melt her face." She got pissed and walked away. Didn't say a thing. Apparently the server was wrong by walking with a tray to deliver food to a customer while this 3 year old was running around acting like an animal.

Here is a pic that demonstrates good parenting.

 

[nate212]

^^^^The fact is you can't expect to live the same when you have kids as you did when there were no kids. They take alot of time and attention. They crave their parents attention, most important thing in the world to them.

It would be real tough to have kids at a young age. I was 31 with my first and that was hard. Priorities have to change. When they dont there are problems. The kids don't get enough attention and go batshit crazy.

They do need consequences. Even at a the sub year point they get very tuned in to the environment and will start manipulating things. The need boundries and limits, they will test the limits but have to know where it stops. It has to be consistent.

Thats my experience.

 

[riprockwell]

^^^^The fact is you can't expect to live the same when you have kids as you did when there were no kids. They take alot of time and attention. They crave their parents attention, most important thing in the world to them.

It would be real tough to have kids at a young age. I was 31 with my first and that was hard. Priorities have to change. When they dont there are problems. The kids don't get enough attention and go batshit crazy.

They do need consequences. Even at a the sub year point they get very tuned in to the environment and will start manipulating things. The need boundries and limits, they will test the limits but have to know where it stops. It has to be consistent.

Thats my experience.

I agree. It seems like the kids I am around or do know have a lot of inconsistencies and it is a nightmare.

 

[RJ]

It has to be consistent.

this to me is the most important thing when it comes to disciplining a child... and most parents suck at it.

This actually turned out to be a very good thread, with the utmost civility. Thanks everyone.

FWIW, my wife got that bitch on 1 count of felony first degree cruelty towards a child (don't know the verbiage). When its out of anger... if never ends well.

Jesus christ my dog just farted. Im dying.

 

[nate212]

this to me is the most important thing when it comes to disciplining a child... and most parents suck at it.

This actually turned out to be a very good thread, with the utmost civility. Thanks everyone.

FWIW, my wife got that bitch on 1 count of felony first degree cruelty towards a child (don't know the verbiage). When its out of anger... if never ends well.

Jesus christ my dog just farted. Im dying.

It's like lifting weights, the consistency is most crucial but takes active effort.

Your dog farted, my wife just came up and had me taste her breast milk....I'll be ok.

 

[RJ]

It's like lifting weights, the consistency is most crucial but takes active effort.

Your dog farted, my wife just came up and had me taste her breast milk....I'll be ok.

hahaha. awesome. my wife has implants so she didn't breast feed, but i could see her doing something like that.

Ain't married life funny sometimes?

 

[Dreaded Pirate Roberts]

Hitting our of anger is never right with kids. Discipline is different. I choose to use my voice till it isn't effective. Spanking works to make an impression on the mine. My son goes back and forth to his room a lot.

 

[supersetman]

I was spanked as a kid, worked for me, I will do the same for my kids.

 

[jimbo79]

Have you ever seen a grown man beat a kid? Feared for my friends life at times..he got beats from his step dad couple times a week.

Guy was a fn creep, he passed from cancer years ago..I didn't feel bad.