First cycle(Test-Deca) Need help

[happyzle]

Heya, Im new to injections and I would like to get a few advices from experiented users.

I planned to run Test400 and Deca 300 from Medistar(looking forward for Northernpharma)

I was going to do 700mg/week test and 500mg/week of deca, with having on hand Nolva and clomid. I would start clomid 2 weeks after last injection. But I need to know how mgs are needed with Nolva. I am willing to take your opinions.

 

[happyzle]

I forgot to post my stats.

Im 20 years old
Height : about 5'4
Weight : 178lbs
Bicep : 18inches
Chest : 44inches

I workout since im 12 years old, it's been 8 years this winter without ever stopping. I benched 400lbs RAW. Also did 450lbs with the Mad dog Slingshot. I use around 315lbs for 10reps on squat and I dont do much deadlift since I get bad lowerback pain when I do.

My diet is almost perfect but I love eating some extra sugar on weekends. As supplements I use : Vitamine D,Vitamine C, Multivitamin, Omega3-6-9, Whey protein.

 

[Bullseye Forever]

if this is your first cycle,drop the deca and do a test only cycle your first time,save the deca for later...i wouldnt even use deca on a first cycle,you can 2nd time around,IMO this would be a good first cycle for you

Test Cyp or Eth-500-600mg/week-14 weeks
Aromasin 12.5mg ed

Nolvadex 40/40/20/20
Clomid 50/50/50/50 start post cycle therapy (pct) 2 weeks after last pin

this will give you a great first cycle,you will learn how test effects youer body and then when you do use the deca,if any sides come up,you will know then if it is the test or deca,always on your first use 1 compound to know how your body is going to react.

If you use 2 compounds,if you start getting sides,you wont know which one it is,

You will be happy with a test only cycle 1st go around,just remember to eat enough!!!!

80% Diet 15% Training 5% Steroids

 

[jadakiss]

+1 with bull , brother test only

 

[happyzle]

Thanks alot for your respectful comments.

I was planning run Deca since im having bad rotator cuff pain even with good warmups and paying attention to my movements. I also had a Pec tear this november, which im still having aftermath pain from it. Since then I cant bench more than 350lbs.

But I totally agree with you, I will stick with Test E only so I can see how I react.

So, If im not wrong, I run Nolvadex 2 weeks after the last pin which means I start it at week 17-18 at 40mg ED. Then for weeks 19-20 I run it at 20mg ED. For clomid, I start it along with Nolva at week 17 through week 20 at 50mg ED?

Aromasin 12.5 ED is to control oestrogen conversion?

Also what do you think of this pin schedule. 300mg on Tuesday and 300mg on Saturday for Test E.

What are your opinions on Medistar Canadian lab, and Northernpharma aswell?

Thanks for your helpful and respecful comments again.

 

[happyzle]

Also, do you think it would be a good idea to throw in a Dbol kick-start for Weeks 1-4 ?

 

[DaHurt]

Guys he's 20! How about no cycle for another few years?!

 

[Bullseye Forever]

Guys he's 20! How about no cycle for another few years?!

oops i didnt even see his age thanks for calling me on it D

 

[happyzle]

I know im only 20 but as I said i've been training for 8 years consecutive... I kinda hit a plateau. Been the same weight for 1 1/2 year.

By the way, I changed my mind. I will be using Euro-Pharm Test E

 

[bigherm2121]

It doesn't mean shit . U could've been lifting since you were two your still gonna have the same problems with a young age and steroids. For one the estrogen will cause your growth plates to close and being that you 5'4 you'll prob want to wait and see if you get taller. Already high hormones and shutting them down for synthetic hormones is bad. I've read about a lot if young kids getting bad depression and other horrible sides.

 

[BXNY]

What are you trying to achieve with this?


I mean, at 5'4", with your current available range of motion/diet needs. It should fairly easy to do what you [probably] want to do, naturally, no?

It's not like you're gonna need 350g of protein and 4,500-5000 calories to get big or even synthetic help.

If you're having muscle size issues at that size, I'd take a damn hard luck on what's going on at the gym and in your kitchen- not at what comes in clear viles. Just my opinion bro.

 

[weights=life]

bullseye knows his shit. id listen to him! and bigherm

 

[sircurlsalot]

Hold off until you are older man.

 

[happyzle]

Alright then, I'll reconsider running a cycle for now ...

 

[bigherm2121]

Alright then, I'll reconsider running a cycle for now ...

Good choice bro. Really man. The possible problems and sides are not worth it in my opinion. Look into sarms bro.

 

[jadakiss]

I agree 100 % just wait

 

[Italiano SPO]

Thanks alot for your respectful comments.

I was planning run Deca since im having bad rotator cuff pain even with good warmups and paying attention to my movements. I also had a Pec tear this november, which im still having aftermath pain from it. Since then I cant bench more than 350lbs.

But I totally agree with you, I will stick with Test E only so I can see how I react.

So, If im not wrong, I run Nolvadex 2 weeks after the last pin which means I start it at week 17-18 at 40mg ED. Then for weeks 19-20 I run it at 20mg ED. For clomid, I start it along with Nolva at week 17 through week 20 at 50mg ED?

Aromasin 12.5 ED is to control oestrogen conversion?

Also what do you think of this pin schedule. 300mg on Tuesday and 300mg on Saturday for Test E.

What are your opinions on Medistar Canadian lab, and Northernpharma aswell?

Thanks for your helpful and respecful comments again.

Just realized you are only 20 years old. Definitely wait a few years dude.

 

[DaHurt]

It doesn't mean shit . U could've been lifting since you were two your still gonna have the same problems with a young age and steroids. For one the estrogen will cause your growth plates to close and being that you 5'4 you'll prob want to wait and see if you get taller. Already high hormones and shutting them down for synthetic hormones is bad. I've read about a lot if young kids getting bad depression and other horrible sides.

x2

 

[essays]

I know im only 20 but as I said i've been training for 8 years consecutive... I kinda hit a plateau. Been the same weight for 1 1/2 year.

By the way, I changed my mind. I will be using Euro-Pharm Test E

I'm kind of impressed that you're 20 years old, 5'4 and have 18" arms. Do you have any pics?

 

[DaHurt]

^^Yeah same here, but a little worried that you didn't include any info about your legs...

EDIT: Sorry just noticed you mentioned your squat...