Austinite
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No sir. A very successful BB spends 60 to 80k per year, that does not include food and in no way exaggerated.
how long or how many cycles would it take to get iffb pro size
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No sir. A very successful BB spends 60 to 80k per year, that does not include food and in no way exaggerated.
308power
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I'm not here to argue with you by any means. Im simply referring to what my friend told me he was taking at the time. 2g test, 800eq, 800deca, 20iu growth every morning, with 15iu insuin every meal and igf in whatever muscle groups you trained that day would cost me about 450 dollars a week. This is obviously not what is run year round because your drugs are different when you are hardening up compared to the offseason where it doesnt matter as much. I am in the powerlifting world. My go to's are test dbol and tren which are all relatively cheap.
I would imagine the short cruises help to negate costs slightly though.
I would imagine the short cruises help to negate costs slightly though.
Austinite
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Not at all brother, we've got 1000's of personalities with a 1000 opinions. It's merely discussion to me
ForeverAesthetic
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Not at all brother, we've got 1000's of personalities with a 1000 opinions. It's merely discussion to me
A bit off topic, but did you get my PM mate?
vader69
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your wr0ng usually a successful bodybuilder will have acess to very cheap products
old&stacked
blood&guts
I have a great friend of mine who hits the stage at a lean and shreded 225. He walks around 260. He has been competing for abouta good 8 yrs and he is still searching for his procard he is 39 yrs old. Remeber this too there is a very political aspect of this too. There are people who choose the so called future contenders and maybe winners. Also take a look at the age of the average competator of pro IFBB, they are in their mid to late 30s. Ronnie Coleman started winning in his late 30s and kept competing i to his 40s.
Austinite
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I have no problem with differing opinions. Thanks for the input.
Austinite
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Last one I got was on the 9th, and I replied.
heavyiron
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It takes great genetics and a solid nutrition plan with proper training. Drugs are a component but they are down the list brother.
H4MMER FISTS
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Wow that pic and video of Randy Tiner is so motivational. Damn, what heart and determination!
ForeverAesthetic
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Have another little look if you could please? I'm sure it says I replied again to your first reply. Dammit I forgot what I asked you now lol.
Austinite
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I disagree.
andyjames
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the f'ck does that mean its all numbers and shit
308power
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I would almost go as far to say as that the general population can view a physique attained using steroids alone and pass it off as natural. An example is of a guy who is 6 foot 240 at 8%. Most would say "oh, hs just a big guy."
You look at the olympia stage in the late 80's through the 90's- the biggest guys were only around 210 lbs and they were taking all of the steroids that they could. The mass monsters that we see today is from the growth and insulin and myostatin deficiencies.
You look at the olympia stage in the late 80's through the 90's- the biggest guys were only around 210 lbs and they were taking all of the steroids that they could. The mass monsters that we see today is from the growth and insulin and myostatin deficiencies.
old&stacked
blood&guts
With that said am not big on todays physics. Frank Zane, Arnold, and Lou really great physics that hopefully wont be lost.
ForeverAesthetic
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Definitely agree with you. Today's physiques are far too big and blocky, too bloated. They dom't have those nice v-taper physiques with broad shoulders and small waists, but they have large muscle belles. Frank, Arnie and Lou had amazing physiques, and they will never be forgotten.
andyjames
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i think they look at abit to big ronnie n jay etc u couldnt lie about bein natural atall haha and i think arnies training partner franco was in good shape
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