How to get accurate testosterone level results

[DreDay187]

I'm on my first cycle currently and like everyone else was curious about if it was possible to get accurate testosterone level numbers instead of the dreaded >1500. This is what I did to get it to work and you can see in the pics below that the privatemdlabs panel showed >1500 and the other panel reads 2834.6 ng/dL. Both panels were taken the same day, same time, same labcorp location, and with the same 21G needle lol. I'll also give you a few different options you can choose from depending on what panels and values you want to get.

*Mods If I cannot talk about another company besides privatemdlabs or our new sponsor, I apologize and edit out my post but otherwise sorry for the long read and here's how (skip to the bottom if you just want to see how quickly lol):

During my research I came across evidence that the results were dictated by which state the company that you payed to get your blood requisition form resides in and for some reason any company based out of Florida gave the real values. The company whose name I saw mentioned was personal labs. I looked up their info and sure enough they were based out of Florida so I figured I'd give it a shot. I still got the female hormone panel on privatemdlabs for reasons which will be clear later and I picked a testosterone panel with thyroid values from personal labs and paid for it. This is where it gets tricky, I no longer think it has to do with the state. I saw codes for a panel that was going to be run on both requisitions so it got me thinking and searching for answers and now I believe you can get your actual serum test levels from any company, any labcorp location, any state, and any regional lab (though the test for the actual testosterone numbers will usually be sent out to a different lab than the rest of the panels). I'm pretty sure the results of the test are only based on which panel code is requested and the number you're looking for is 070001. A quick search of privatemdlabs turns up it has this code BUT I HAVEN'T TRIED IT. I stuck with personal labs bc they were cheaper.

So on privatemdlabs you can search for code 070001 OR look for this test Testosterone, Total - Women, Children, and Hypogonadal Males, LC/MS-MS its $59.99 for the test (again didn't try it personally but it should work). Under the description you'll see it say

This assay provides the sensitivity and specificity required for the assessment of the low testosterone levels found in women, children, adolescents, and hypogonadal men.

That part is key. With this panel you'll only get actual total serum testosterone values (not >1500 result) and nothing else.


On personal labs they have 2 tests with this code. Searching by code number didn't work for me but going under male health tests (have to click on it twice sometimes to get the vertical list) you'll see Low T (Testosterone) Profile for $48. The description says

Low T (Testosterone) Profile

This profile is designed to test for low testoterone. It uses that latest technology to determine whether those symptoms or feelings are related to a decline in the sex hormone, testosterone.
Tests Included:
Testosterone, Highly Sensitive

The key part. With this panel you'll get only actual total serum testosterone values (no >1500 results) and nothing else.


And the second test is called BASIC Erectile Dysfunction Profile for $93. The description says

BASIC Erectile Dysfunction profile

This profile measures thyroid function and testosterone, which can both be associated with erectile dysfunction.
Tests Included:
Thyroid Profile with TSH
CBC with Differential/Platelet Count
Testosterone, Highly Sensitive
Venipuncture

Again the highly sensitive is key and ends up being code 070001. With this test you'll get actual total serum testosterone (no >1500results), CBC with Differential/Platelet Count, and a thyroid panel which has free thyroxine (T4), T3 Uptake (THBR), thyroid-stimulating hormone (TSH), and total thyroxine (T4).

^^^thats the one I chose since I wanted to see thyroid values as well.


As you can see you can come up with a few different options on what to get etc and I'll try and break them all down so you know what you'll get with each. As far as I know, these are the cheapest prices I've found for the panels but I only checked a few other companies out and privatemdlabs still has the cheapest female hormone panel.


Option 1) You don't care about anything but the usual female hormone panel from privatemdlabs. Probably best for pre and post cycle bloods since test levels should be normal ranges. All you want is the basics (LH, FSH, Total test, E2, AST/ALT, CBC with Differential/Platelet Count, and metabolic profile) and don't care about an actual test level number. Go to privatemdlabs as usual for the female hormone panel, total cost: $59.99 (before online coupon).

Private MD - Buy Lab Tests Online

^^^link for the panel for option 1

Option 2) All you want is actual total test results AND NOTHING ELSE (no E2, no LH, no FSH, etc). Maybe your mid cycle, short on cash, already know the rest of your blood work is good, know how to control estrogen, and whatever other reason I'd pick this. Go to personal labs and get the Low T (Testosterone) Profile, total cost: $48 (before online coupon).

Low T (Testosterone) Profile | Men's Health Blood Tests, Online Blood Testing, Health Tests

^^^link for the panel for option 2

Option 3) You want real testosterone values AND thyroid profile and CBC with Differential/Platelet Count. Probably for some of the same reasons as option 2 but you'd like to include thyroid and CBC with Differential/Platelet Count and its mid-cycle where testosterone values are high. You will NOT get LH, FSH, E2 or metabolic profile with this option. Go to personal labs and get the BASIC Erectile Dysfunction Profile, total cost: $93 (before online coupon).

BASIC Erectile Dysfunction profile | Men's Health Blood Tests, Online Blood Testing, Health Tests

^^^link for the panel for option 3

Option 4) You want everything normally given with female hormone panel from privatemdlabs (E2, FSH, LH, CBC with Differential/Platelet Count, AST/ALT, and metabolic profile BUT you ALSO want real test numbers. Again same reasons as 2 & 3, best mid cycle probably. This option WILL NOT give thyroid values. Go to privatemdlabs and get the Hormone Panel for Females AND go to personal labs and get the Low T (Testosterone) Profile, total cost: $59.99 + $48 (before online coupons for BOTH).

Low T (Testosterone) Profile | Men's Health Blood Tests, Online Blood Testing, Health Tests
Private MD - Buy Lab Tests Online

^^^links for panels for option 4...you need to purchase the panel from each link.

Option 5) The big daddy of them all, includes EVERYTHING. You're mid-cycle and want a handle on ALL your values actual serum testosterone values, FSH, LH, E2, thyroid profile, CBC with Differential/Platelet Count, ADT/ALT, and Metabolic Profile. Go to privatemdlabs and get the Hormone Panel for Females AND go to personal labs and get the BASIC Erectile Dysfunction Profile, total cost: $59.99 + $93 (before online coupons for both).

BASIC Erectile Dysfunction profile | Men's Health Blood Tests, Online Blood Testing, Health Tests
Private MD - Buy Lab Tests Online

^^^links for panels for option 5...you need to purchase the panel from each link

Private MD - Buy Lab Tests Online

^^^this link is if you want to get the accurate testosterone level test from privatemdlabs. I personally didn't use it because it was more expensive than perosnal labs but I figured I'd throw it in here regardless just in case.

As you can see there are a few options you could choose from depending on what you want to see in your panels and what you're willing to spend. I went option 5 for mid-cycle bc I had the money laying around and wanted all my values (tried t3 few wks back and wanted to see how my thyroid came back).

Also just so it's clear, I paid for the privatemdlabs and personal labs requisitions on the same day, printed them both out within minutes of each other, went to the same labcorp location, took both samples on the same visit/day/time and just gave them two different reqs. Don't give them any CC info or insurance info. They may ask for drivers license which you could try and argue but they didn't for me.

I hope this has been written clearly enough to understand, I ramble a lot as is evident in this very sentence lol. If you're confused about any part of it, post up your question or pm me and I'll do my best to answer it as soon as I can and be as helpful as possible. This should work for EVERYONE who goes through labcorp and privatemdlabs and wants real numbers. Hopefully the rest of the members here can out this info to good use and start seeing the results we've all been wanting to see for a while now (except you lucky bastards who've always had actual numbers lmao).

The first two pics are from privatemdlabs and the hormone panel for females and the second two pics are from personal labs and their basic erectile dysfunction test. That's what I got and it should provide you with an idea of the results you'll get and evidence that you CAN get actual numbers from personal labs even when privatemdlabs gives >1500 all from the same location!

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Edit* thanks to Megatron who called and talked with privatemdlabs, there's a small update. I'm just adding in the quote of what he found out. I haven't tested it or checked it personally but he is very thorough and I would trust his findings.

I emailed Private MD Labs and asked if any of their lab tests would give you the actual testosterone number rather than >1500. They told me that lab test 070195 does that.

Testosterone, Free (Direct) With Total Testosterone, LC/MS-MS $89.49
- That is the price before the 15% discount.

For what it is worth, they said this is the only one that would give an actual number. I haven't tried it out. I actually just used the one from PersonalLabs since it is cheaper. But I thought I would pass on what they told me.

Edit 2* thanks to Black Beard for this link about endogenous testosterone levels and time of day to test for them.

http://jcem.endojournals.org/content/94/3/907.full

 

[DexterMorgan]

Great Post

 

[Metalhead]

Great job bro!

 

[Austinite]

Nice Docd, very clean and easy to understand.

 

[My_Pitch27]

Damn this is perfect! Thanks!

 

[DreDay187]

Great Post

Thanks Dex. I know you just got bloods done but if you wanted to you could do the low t profile and get an accurate reading if its that important to you. Regardless your panels looked real good though!

Great job bro!

Thanks Metalhead

Nice Docd, very clean and easy to understand.

Thanks brother, I was actually reading something you wrote regarding supplementation of vitamins/minerals/aminos etc and thought it was brilliantly written tried following your example with ease of comprehension but I talk too much at times lol. Happy to receive such "harsh" critique lmao!

Damn this is perfect! Thanks!

Your welcome buddy. I know you're dying for that cycle with everything in your other thread so hopefully you can use this info during your cycle

 

[Austinite]

Thanks brother, I was actually reading something you wrote regarding supplementation of vitamins/minerals/aminos etc and thought it was brilliantly written tried following your example with ease of comprehension but I talk too much at times lol. Happy to receive such "harsh" critique lmao!

lol. Well thanks. You went into some great detail in here. This thread should stay bumped. I've bookmarked it to refer others. Thanks again.

 

[robbiek426]

Great post Doc! The amount of info you put out is incredible! I cannot believe that you are only on your first cycle! You are a veteran with your knowledge by far. As always, that was a great read.

 

[Austinite]

Great post Doc! The amount of info you put out is incredible! I cannot believe that you are only on your first cycle! You are a veteran with your knowledge by far. As always, that was a great read.

He's done at least 10 cycles in his head

 

[kaname]

Thanks for taking the time to put together this info. I reported the thread for a sticky. Hope others are doing the same.

edit: Let me rephrase, emailed for a sticky etc....

 

[DreDay187]

lol. Well thanks. You went into some great detail in here. This thread should stay bumped. I've bookmarked it to refer others. Thanks again.

I tried to write it in a way that hopefully answered most questions anyone would have preemptively. Saying YOU of all people bookmarked it is kind of like being nominated for the Nobel Prize, I'm honored

Great post Doc! The amount of info you put out is incredible! I cannot believe that you are only on your first cycle! You are a veteran with your knowledge by far. As always, that was a great read.

Robbie, don't know what to say besides THANK YOU . This is my first cycle, it's plain to see in my posts since I don't have much first-hand experience but reading and studying up on the matter, sifting between what's real and what's BS, has been happening since well before I even bought my gear.

He's done at least 10 cycles in his head

You don't even know how right you are lol. My cousin and I almost bit the bullet at 17yo when a body shop foreman who was fixing my car offered to sell us a dbol cycle. No mention of sides, blood work, AI's, PCT, etc. The man basically told us to pop them like skittles until the sides became more prevalent than results. Thankfully it seemed a bit too shady and we held off (until now that is )

Thanks for taking the time to put together this info. I reported the thread for a sticky. Hope others are doing the same.

edit: Let me rephrase, emailed for a sticky etc....

Thanks Pimpin, hopefully it's ok with the mods seeing as I dropped some names of companies that aren't sponsors, I just went with the cheapest places i found after a auick search. the methods used should work for ANY company you decide to go through. The names of tests might be different but so long as you can find either the code or the right words in the description it SHOULD work.

 

[Ocdude]

Thanks for taking the time to put together this info. I reported the thread for a sticky. Hope others are doing the same.

edit: Let me rephrase, emailed for a sticky etc....

Totally agree, awesome write up Doc! Thanks for taking the time (and cash) to figure all this out for the board!

 

[halfwit]

You already know how I feel about this, but I have to say man - this writeup is even better than what I thought you had cooking. Well written and I know I can't wait to put this knowledge to use. You're the man Doc.

 

[StoneColdNTO]

Sweet post worthy of being "Stickied"

 

[DreDay187]

Sweet post worthy of being "Stickied"

^^^^ that coming from a site admin is awesome haha. Thank you StoneCold, I hope the information gets put to good use.

 

[Mad- scientist]

I highly admire the time and effort you put into this and it shows that your are a intelligent person and dedicated. I thought I was the only one who looked through steroid related information late through the night trying to figure out cool things that will benefit me and the rest of the community lol not really but it felt like it. But I am not completely familiar with all the testing procedures yet but next cycle I run I will be sure to utilize all the information... lol and we should all give doc a rep point for his time!!!! its just as easy as clicking like don't be afraid to do it!

 

[DreDay187]

Totally agree, awesome write up Doc! Thanks for taking the time (and cash) to figure all this out for the board!

Thanks Oc. It wasn't bad at all and the cash was already going to be spent regardless lol, I was due for mid-cycle bloods anyway. I just kept postponing them until I thought I had it figured out.

You already know how I feel about this, but I have to say man - this writeup is even better than what I thought you had cooking. Well written and I know I can't wait to put this knowledge to use. You're the man Doc.

Lol when I write too much I tend to get confusing, too many thoughts running around, but glad to hear its not. If you want to put it to use you had better start getting ready for your next big blast . And I'm expecting to see 6000 ng/dL +

I highly admire the time and effort you put into this and it shows that your are a intelligent person and dedicated. I thought I was the only one who looked through steroid related information late through the night trying to figure out cool things that will benefit me and the rest of the community lol not really but it felt like it. But I am not completely familiar with all the testing procedures yet but next cycle I run I will be sure to utilize all the information... lol and we should all give doc a rep point for his time!!!! its just as easy as clicking like don't be afraid to do it!

Thanks Mad, appreciate the kind words my friend. I know the feeling of thinking your the only one but I have spoken with some ppl on hear who are just as dedicated, doing research and offering advice from early in the day until the wee hours of the morning. They know who they are and they should be the ones being praised. There are some very very smart people on here I look up to and to list them out one by one would be an arduous task and I'm sure to leave someone out. Keep your eyes open and you'll see them for sure lol.

Do you mean you're confused about some point and have questions or what? If you have any questions as to what I did or meant in my post, post it here or pm me. I'll do my best to answer it as accurately as possible. The confusing part to me is just deciding what point of a cycle you're on and which test/s to pick. The rest should work easily and I'll edit some links to the post if I'm allowed.

Don't worry about the reps lol. I'd rather everyone just post their "accurate" test results in here and we can all comment on the panels. Plus we can make a contest for who has the highest test level, who's in??

 

[German89]

Doc clear your PMs bro!

 

[Alpin]

I'm more concerned with getting accurate T levels while off cycle.

 

[DreDay187]

I'm more concerned with getting accurate T levels while off cycle.

Off cycle any testosterone test would do for you. Your levels wouldn't be high enough to get the >1500ng/dL result which was the reason for my post the female hormone panel on privatemdlabs would give you a lot of the values you'd need to know.