R3 and me

[slicli]

Well i started my animal on R3 yesterday which included 2 20mcg IM shots, one into each quad.

My expermint will consist of the following:

R3 @ 40mcg/ed Weeks 2-8
Cyp @ 500mg/week Weeks 1-16
R3 @ ~40-60mcg/ed Weeks 15-20

I sustained permenant nerve damage in my right leg in an accident were my right hip and pelvis were crushed and during surgery the doc had to cut it....he said he was sorry and that he had to do it which i was fine with. I have had no surface feeling in my right thigh since 1995...R3 has been touted to repair nerver damage....i will keep you posted.

First day observations:
Shots were much more painful that i thought they would be.

 

[slicli]

Day 2

20mcg in right pec
20mcg in left pec

Observations:
Painfull, had a slight headache this morning, no change in leg (which i expect)


Im loading the pin with 10 ticks of bw then 2.5 ticks of R3 and shot. Then i draw 10 ticks bw and shot that subq.

 

[FTC]

you may want to think about how long to run your igf for. most people like to go 4 weeks on, 4 weeks off. supposedly the effects peter out around 30 days or so. just a thought.
btw im also on day 2 of r3

 

[slicli]

ftc, i read that 50 days was the best cycle length but that very well could be dated.

i read that R3 shuts down gh production so i may take 2 iu gh ed, not sure yet.

exactly how are you shotting your R3? what is your procedure, where do you shot it and how does it feel?

 

[needsize]

really interested in hearing peoples results on this stuff

 

[Shock]

really interested too!!! As far as i know, GH production is weakly reduced by the igf-1 feedback, not totally shut down!!! BTW what you have to keep in check is somatostatine that is the principal mechanism that our body use to stop GH secretion!!!

 

[FTC]

done 2 shots in 2 days. 2 tics or 40mcgs per shot. load 2 tics igf then up to 40 bw and shoot im in the delts. first time did pre workout, second time did post. still to early to tell anything. dont have any idea when the best time is to shoot.
bump for replies.

 

[Trevdog]

Since you are looking for potential nerve repair, I will pass on that Animal states that it takes 4-6 weeks for nerve repair to happen, assuming IGF can accomplish that. I have no personal knowledge of that.

I suggest you fill the whole pin with bac water. Extra dilution should ease the soreness from the shots. If you are getting pain from the shot itself, that is really odd, these are insulin pins.

 

[Johny J]

if you made your igf-1 with hcl as opposed to b.a. it wouldnt hurt.
and are you sure you want that nerve repaired? what if all it sends out is pain, or some weird feeling?

and yeah, iu would stop th igf after 4-5 weeks.

 

[slicli]

Day 3
40mcg, 20 into each pec, one in the morning and one post workout

Observations:
None to report, no increased appitite, no joint pain, no numbness, no headaches, no sleepyness

Trevdog, the actual stick from the pin is painless, the pain is from the BA. its no big deal now, just got used to it i guess.

johny, i didnt reconsititue my igf, it came that way. is the ifg as stable in hcl? good point about the nerve restoration, i was looking at it as takin one for the team to either substantiate or disprove that portion of the IGF myth.

 

[Johny J]

gotcha. yeah, igf-1 is stable when reconstituted with hcl. thats how a few of us made ours. i had a bio chemist make it, and thats whsat he recommended, so hey.

 

[Trevdog]

I got hungry and sleepy as hell so I hope you didn't get rooked.

 

[slicli]

johny, the hcl sounds like a very good alternative...

trevdog, was yours suspended in BA and did it come that way? how long did it take for you to feel those sides?

 

[Trevdog]

johny, the hcl sounds like a very good alternative...

trevdog, was yours suspended in BA and did it come that way? how long did it take for you to feel those sides?

Yes after reading your PM we got it from the same source, which leaves me convinced that yours is legit. Yes, mine came suspended in BA, 1 mg. in 2 ml.

I don't recall exactly how long it took to feel the sides but I believe it was within 4 days. Have you considered upping the dose to say 60 mcgs. per day? I ran about 65.

I'm not sure that everybody feels the sides but I also experienced a 5 lb. weight gain within a week. I was pretty ravenous.

Please keep us updated.

 

[Johny J]

i would keep you dosage at this level for this current cycle. my buddies used it at 40mcg a day and most loved the results. didnt realy notice anything till the end of the first week anyway. good luck guys.

 

[slicli]

ftc, you said 40mcg or 2 ticks...my slin pin is a 1ml pin with 50 ticks and my igf came 1mg suspended in 2ml ba which means 1 tick=10mcg on my pins. im not saying your wrong, just saying you might want to check that.

 

[slicli]

Day 4

40mcg in an am/post workout split

Observations:
Nothing to report but getting excited about tomorrow. i should prolly add that i am eating really big, between 4000-4500 cals a day in a 40/30/30 protein/carbs/fat percentage.

 

[Trevdog]

See if you can get your protein grams over 400. I've hit over 500 at times.

 

[slicli]

Trevdog, i am....

40% of 4250 (avg daily cals) is 1700 calories from protein a day
1700 divided by 4 is 425grams of protein a day.

and i always error on the side of protein so i honestly believe that i get between 450 and 500g's of protein a day and have been doing so for the last month, which is how long i been bluking.

before the bulk my stats were:
33yo
5'7"
170lbs
~8%bf

now i am:
182lbs
~11%bf

now before you claim bs know that i usually follow a relatively close keto diet while cutting or maintaining, so much of the weight gain in the last month has come from water due to the greatly increased carbs...which will also "fictisiously" raise bf% due to increased water in the subq layer also due to the increased carbs and more so increased sodium...which i dont watch nearly as much when on a bulk

 

[Trevdog]

Well that sounds like a good bulking diet to me.