Z Blue Top Labs

[Mike Arnold]

But since I do have your attention now MA, I'd still be really interested in sources (as in factual ones) for the interesting and different info you put in my log about IGF-LR3, MGF, etc.

Pm me.

 

[DaHurt]

Pm me.

You can just post them in my log, it'd be good for anyone to access them if interested!

Thanks bud!

And that is a good point above...I AM NOT bashing Z at all, in any way!

Like I said, I admire the transparency, very stand-up!

But I'm out...going to watch the NPC Governor's Cup!

 

[gjs37]

I was thinking of trying HGH and have a friend who has these same bottles but when he tested it to see if it was HCG it came up positive with the pregnacy test........Is there any way HGH will test positive on a pregnancy test????

 

[DaHurt]

I was thinking of trying HGH and have a friend who has these same bottles but when he tested it to see if it was HCG it came up positive with the pregnacy test........Is there any way HGH will test positive on a pregnancy test????

Yeah if it's HCG.

 

[gjs37]

So he got screwed....... wow!

 

[DaHurt]

What hgh did he have?

 

[gjs37]

He was told it was samatropin. they looked just like the blue glass vials poted in this thread....

 

[b_saan]

He was told it was samatropin. they looked just like the blue glass vials poted in this thread....

Shoulda called it scamatropin, at least truth in advertising...

Sorry to hear it though, if it's any consolation a whole lot of people have been taken for GH in the past 5 months.

 

[gjs37]

lol..... Now it sucks for me! i was going to order through him and now there goes my contact. part that sucks he has been dealing with him for a while....

 

[heavyiron]

March batch measured 15.5 ng/mL.

"10iu" injected IM 3 hours 11 minutes before the draw.

Z has been advised.

I will post lab report later.

 

[Spongy]

March batch measured 15.5 ng/mL.

"10iu" injected IM 3 hours 11 minutes before the draw.

Z has been advised.

I will post lab report later.

Heavy, I really really love the transparency here. You guys are stand up with your results. Much respect! Keep us updated on how Z is handling the situation.

 

[Zeek]

I just want everyone to understand how easy it would be for someone to fudge test results to make their product look good! it happens all the time

BUT

Not with these Z guys! they are posting the facts and my respect grows for them more by the day for doing exactly that even if results are not what they wanted to see.

Once you guys get this HGH thing fine tuned I will be a loyal client! count on that

Much respect for being 100% honest and transparent! This is keeping it real IMO!!

thanks

March batch measured 15.5 ng/mL.

"10iu" injected IM 3 hours 11 minutes before the draw.

Z has been advised.

I will post lab report later.

 

[heavyiron]

Thanks brother.

Like stated earlier. This industry will not change without transparency. I sincerely hope things change VERY soon.

 

[crazyfmike]

March batch measured 15.5 ng/mL.

"10iu" injected IM 3 hours 11 minutes before the draw.

Z has been advised.

I will post lab report later.

Damn these little Chinese Bastards!

 

[DaHurt]

Heavy, you da man. The Z crew definitely keeps it real and that's why we love you guys!

 

[MattPorter]

This is heading in a positive direction -- the honest policy.

How can these middle men EVER demand higher quality and actually be heard? They can't I am assuming.....

I hope this is not as good as it gets,,, or a set standard. A luck of the draw type of thing now a days....

-Matt

 

[heavyiron]

March batch measured 15.5 ng/mL.

"10iu" injected IM 3 hours 11 minutes before the draw.

Z has been advised.

I will post lab report later.

Looks like we are stuck at the 5iu mark. Time for Z to change manufacturers.

 

[mr.spoon]

wtf is that - YouTube

 

[b_saan]

Looks like we are stuck at the 5iu mark. Time for Z to change manufacturers.

I salute and appreciate both your testing/reporting and your work to get better product available to the customers.

 

[UserAt204]

Please find one single generic currently being sold giving readings of 50. Better yet, find ANY current GH products giving readings of 50.

Yes, those high numbers do occasonally happen, but you also need to remember that there is variance in these readings. Not everyone's response will be the same. 50 is really high...over-dosed. You say yourself that Pharm-grade GH (which is dosed perfectly) had readings of 30ish'.

So, if someone occasionally sells GH significantly over-dosed...great, but how many decently priced GH products are you going to find right now giving guys a reading of 50? Exactly. In fact, most GH products now are complete shit!

The point is that Pharm-grade GH is generally considered very good (and expensive), so even if Uncle's is not dosed quite as high as pharm-grade GH, that doesn't mean it's not good, especially when looking at it from a cost effective perspective.

If were looking at it from a cost effective perspective, we could use the following comparison. If you bought 50 IU of GH for $50 or 100IU of GH for $100, which one is the better deal? Using your number of 30 for pharm-grade GH, are you really getting a much better deal with the pharm-grade if your reading is 40% higher, but you have to pay twice as much?

If we know for a fact that Uncle's GH is legit, but not dosed as high as Pharmgrade, I tend to think of a good deal as whatever product gives me the most legitimate GH for my money. Personally, I wouldn't care if a generic brand contained only 25% as much GH as a pharm-grade kit if it only cost $25 a kit! Would you? Who cares how many bottles I have to go through, so long as I am paying a decent price for each IU of GH I get.

I just wanted to put a different slant on this because if the reading is the ONLY thing you look at when determining whether GH is a good deal, you could be missing out. Who gives a shit if some GH is the highest dosed ever, if it cost $1000 a kit! Know what I mean?

Anyway, I am glad we have some real GH.

I'm not being a smat ass here, but didn't one of your reps post a serum that was well over 30 from the same labs gh?

Honestly I need to read the thread so I may need to come back and delete or apologize but 17 on gh serum at 10 iu is underdosed. Pharm gh (omni) test at 35 using the same method, and I know rips and Ellis both test over 20.

I am very happy to see you guys have the balls to show your results. The issue I have, and again I have yet to read the thread but will, is I personally have a hard time with a rep posting his results, not that I question heavyirons integrity at all, he seems to be very honest and very knowledgeable and an asset to any board so this is not about Heavy at all. My concern is this, did Z send you specific product, did he send a kit with twice the amount, and any number of things. Now I'm also not accusing Z of anything and I am not against him in any way. I was a rep with a lab and spoke on their products all the time and I welcome people to question my intentions and all that.

But this is a very good starting point, and what guys should be doing is placing their own orders, spending the little amount of money it cost for these test, and compare results.

So thank you Heavy for putting the time in and I know you are only trying to help the community with finding good product. 17 is a pretty drastic increase from normal and I'm sure their would be good results using them.

And to the OP I also mean no disrespect to you, I simply read the first statement and began typing, so I will go back and read the entire thread and adjust anything I may have written if I'm wrong.