Androseries- What do you have planned?

[djm6464]

LOL, being a chicago guy, its hard to believe Rush St. can be beat.

crescent

 

[burlyman]

There needs to have been a lot more girls on Burly St.

 

[Rodja]

Texas girls and 6th street

This.

 

[Good Grip]

Mardi Gras, New Orleans. Nawlings/winning.

 

[HereToStudy]

Anyway, lets get back on topic.....

 

[hatefulONE]

Ok officially this is my decision, andromass at recommended dosage for 8 weeks. PCT will be:
Torem 120mg Day 1-3
Torem 90mg Day 4-7
Torem 60mg Day 8-21
Torem 30mg Day 22-28
TRS Week 3-6

I will be running fish oil, multivitamin, toco-8, and the usual protein powders, ibcaa's, etc while on. I've used test solo at 500mg before so I'll definitely be able to compare the gains and feel of the andromass compared to the big T. I've got high expectations pp so don't let me down.

 

[HereToStudy]

I've got high expectations pp so don't let me down.

We won't. My cycle is Mass based as well, so I can assure you it is everything we state it to be.

 

[Good Grip]

Ok officially this is my decision, andromass at recommended dosage for 8 weeks. PCT will be:
Torem 120mg Day 1-3
Torem 90mg Day 4-7
Torem 60mg Day 8-21
Torem 30mg Day 22-28
TRS Week 3-6

I will be running fish oil, multivitamin, toco-8, and the usual protein powders, ibcaa's, etc while on. I've used test solo at 500mg before so I'll definitely be able to compare the gains and feel of the andromass compared to the big T. I've got high expectations pp so don't let me down.

Cool, an 8 weeker. These are rare to see. Everyone it seems to be doin 6 weeks at the most.

 

[hatefulONE]

Cool, an 8 weeker. These are rare to see. Everyone it seems to be doin 6 weeks at the most.

I won't get into my theory on why people lose a lot of gains on ph's but I feel that longer cycles on more moderate doses, whether it be ph or aas, gives you more quality and keepable gains vs higher doses and very short cycles to try to get gains fast. I'm getting two bottles, so might as well do it for 8 weeks, otherwise I could get two 6 weeks cycles out of 3 bottles, but I'm not buying anymore andromass unless I get great results.

 

[RA64]

Cool, an 8 weeker. These are rare to see. Everyone it seems to be doin 6 weeks at the most.

You being a PP rep what are you running a 6 or 8 week cycle?

 

[ryansm]

I won't get into my theory on why people lose a lot of gains on ph's but I feel that longer cycles on more moderate doses, whether it be ph or aas, gives you more quality and keepable gains vs higher doses and very short cycles to try to get gains fast. I'm getting two bottles, so might as well do it for 8 weeks, otherwise I could get two 6 weeks cycles out of 3 bottles, but I'm not buying anymore andromass unless I get great results.

I agree, I think 8 is perfect

 

[Good Grip]

You being a PP rep what are you running a 6 or 8 week cycle?

Androlean... But what I really want to do is Andromass. If I can lose 20 or 30lbs by myself naturaly, then I may start out with Andromass.. but its only goin to be for a recomp if it I do decide to use Mass. Other wise ill run lean and keep dropping untill I hit 270ish..

Ultimatly id like to get to 240lbs with visible abs by december maybe...

 

[BigBlackguy]

Androhard stacked with test.

 

[burlyman]

Androhard stacked with test.

Awesome.

 

[Good Grip]

Androhard stacked with test.

Beautiful. How long?

 

[voltron1967]

i see that allot of you are stacking this with either gear or a ph,i got a couple of questions 1,i thought this stuff was a safe alternative to gear,2 so why is everyone talking about stacking it how are we going to know if it really works personally i think its all hype i want to see a log were someone is just running andro be it mass ,hard or lean so i can decide to buy or not,and 3 if its so safe why do you need a pct

 

[burlyman]

i see that allot of you are stacking this with either gear or a ph,i got a couple of questions 1,i thought this stuff was a safe alternative to gear,2 so why is everyone talking about stacking it how are we going to know if it really works personally i think its all hype i want to see a log were someone is just running andro be it mass ,hard or lean so i can decide to buy or not,and 3 if its so safe why do you need a pct

Seeing as all the reps are asleep right now, I think I can answer some of this for you. Andro's safety refers to that fact that is it not methylated and not liver toxic. It does not mean that it is not suppressive. All exogenous hormones will be suppressive, but that is not related to safety, per se.

There are tons of logs out there right now on Andro Hard and Andro Lean. You don't have to look very far to find them. Everyone is still waiting for Andro Mass to get shipped out.

 

[djm6464]

Androhard stacked with test.

test/eq/androhard/trenazone/epi

 

[hatefulONE]

Honestly, this is nothing against PP or their andro series, but PH's are garbage. Everyone knows it. Why are there no vets running it? Loaded Gun ran andro lean and it didn't do anything. Again, nothing against PP, but for the money if you are looking for gains you are better off hiring a trainer and/or diet consultant (if you don't want to use gear). The reps are paid to hype the crap out of this stuff and I admire their willingness to put themselves out there hyping a product none of them have even used. Once the andro series goes away (and it will, just like the rest of the PH's), the next "#1 test/DHT booster/base" will start to show up on the forums. The only thing that changes with the PH's is the name of the product.

I agree to some extent, but why hire a trainer and dietician, why can't some just invest the time in researching for themselves, unless it is a great dietician, they are just reading out of a book for their advice to you, and the trainers, don't get me started on most trainers. Some are quality, but if I see one more douche having people do exercises one legged on a bosu ball, I might just front kick him in the face, in the face.

 

[burlyman]

Honestly, this is nothing against PP or their andro series, but PH's are garbage. Everyone knows it. Why are there no vets running it? Loaded Gun ran andro lean and it didn't do anything.

I have 27 years in the iron game, so I'd consider myself a vet. Your blanket statement about all PHs being garbage is uninformed and foolish. Listen, I'm not a fan of SD/Beastdrol but some guys have put 20 lbs on with the stuff. It made me feel horrible, but even though I could barely eat, I gained about 12 lbs. Garbage? I'd say that was pretty impressive. I did a Tbol/Hdrol PH for 8 weeks and gained 16 lbs, 10 of it muscle, and kept it.

Your lack of knowledge, understanding, and experience is getting in the way here. I have my opinions as to why Loaded gun didn't lose fat. I think the product hypes the thermogenic properties too much, and that it is more of an anti-catabolic. The guys who have done well (read some logs, they are everywhere) are reducing their calories significantly (1000-1500 less) and maintaining size and strength.

I'm not a company rep for anyone. I've done AAS and PHs. I've used products from different companies. But I'm not blind. A good PH can give gains that rival the real thing.