arnold looking like SHIT

looks like shit? Cmon thats why all the top pros today are killing themselves with rediculous standards. I mean in some of the mags ill see a pic in a contest and they will be bashing him for a tad of water under the skin. To me thats crazy. Thats the killer right there today. All the diuretics and high protein in the last few weeks. Its like adding sand to a engine with no oil. These guys are too exteme today cause guys say you look like shit if your not the size of a house and dry as a bone. We should lighten up on these guys some. Man they are risking alot like some of us do and we should respect them a little more. Id love to look like arnold in that pic myself.
 
Traps said:
even w/ all available today he wouldnt make top 10-15. Arnold just did not have genetics like 90% of pro's today. he would weigh as much as the guys 5'7 and 5'8. a tall 6'2 looks smaller than a 5'7 or 8 guy. Not close man! Oh, btw, Sergio was the freak back in the day. He was head and freakin shoulders above Arnold!

T

I think with more drugs Arnold could have been much bigger.
Also I do not think todays pro would win a competition by the standards of the 60's and 70's
 
The 60's and 70's would not have ever seen people like pro's today. I disagree. Freaks win! I would pick Coleman over Arnolds lame ass any day of the week. He was so damn overrated it makes me sick.

T
 
Some might say Coleman is overrated...I dont think so. I respect his achievements as a bodybuilder, however IMO Arnold/Samir/Franco/Serge Nubret etc. etc. more accurately embodied what bodybuilding is supposed to be about. An amalgam of art and sport. If it is your opinion that BB is more about feakishness than symmetry then that is your opinion, however when you have such an opinion you loose half of the allure of bodybuilding. To say Arnold is overrated is completely flat out wrong. Granted much of the popularity Arnold has attained as a BBer is a direct result of his movie career but looking at his physique and multiple wins as Mr. O, Universe and many other titles won at a young age it would be ignorrant to say he is overrated. I believe as of yet he is the greatest BBer that has ever lived, an opinion not just formed by looking at his career in the sport but his life as a whole.
 
Ok, here's why he IS overrated. 1980.....he comes into the Mr. O looking like absolute shit....crap! If you can honestly say he won the 1980 Olympia then I am sorry, get some glasses!!! There were AT LEAST 3 guys that should have placed ahead of him!
There are some people who get sick of hearing Arnold this and Arnold that. Sergio was the man back then! He completely dominated Arnold in damn near every bodypart! Take away Arnolds chest and biceps....what is left? Nothing! Back...sucked...legs....don't even let me start picking those apart.....delts....um, I dont see any. This is WHY I think Arnold was overrated. Sorry, but I find nothing mesmorizing about Arnold. I don't like cocky attitudes either. I wish Mentzer would have kicked his ass at the 1980 press conference when Arnold didn't want the classes changed. I'm done arguing this whole thing. You have your opinion and I have mine!

T
 
I think Arnold wouldn't be able to win any contest today, not even when using all the drugs today available. Just because he has genetically underdeveloped legs and back. Arnold wasn't symmetrical and won't and wouldn't be ever.
 
OMG, thank you rookie! And no Matthias, I cannot stand the man for the reasons stated in my last post!

T
 
Grote Bink said:
I think Arnold wouldn't be able to win any contest today, not even when using all the drugs today available. Just because he has genetically underdeveloped legs and back. Arnold wasn't symmetrical and won't and wouldn't be ever.


Soooo you dont think he could put more mass on his legs and back? Listen all he would have to do is 1. Eat more protien 2. Take a little more Dbol or Anadrol/Test etc. etc. than usual and there you go. That works for just about anybody.
Oh and will one of you please explain Ronnies gut. What the hell is that? It looks like he swallowed a damn beachball.
 
Ok...Ronnies gut. Arnolds legs, back, delts, traps....hmmmmm?
And no, i do not believe more Anabolic Androgenic Steroids (AAS) would help Arnold all that much. Genetics play a big role. If you have ever seen pics Of Ronnie In High School or college the dude was big.
I do not buy the "that just works for about" anybosy bit.
 
Matthias1550 said:
Soooo you dont think he could put more mass on his legs and back? Listen all he would have to do is 1. Eat more protien 2. Take a little more Dbol or Anadrol/Test etc. etc. than usual and there you go. That works for just about anybody.
Oh and will one of you please explain Ronnies gut. What the hell is that? It looks like he swallowed a damn beachball.

Protein and Dbol were already available in the 60's and 70's AND already used by Arnold. And he wasn't able to improve his legs and back...... So, I think he is just not genetically gifted enough to have bigger legs and a better back.
 
I know that. My point is what do you think would happen if he utilized the dosages taken by todays pros? You cant tell me he wouldnt get bigger.
 
He would be a monster. He is definitely genetically gifted. Look in his book on BBing and theres a pic of him at 15. He had the v, 19 inch arms and ripped abs
 
The guy had great genetics. They just didn't care about legs like they do today. Plus the didn't have leg press machines early on.

The truth is Arnold has 'pretty' musculature, if he were the same size and bf% as any of the current pros, he would probably look a ton better. He was dealt a great hand in that regard.


Those pics are from the 81 Olympia I believe, a contest Arnold should not have won anyways. His legs look like twigs, his back is underdeveloped and even his chest doesn't look as great as it once did. He shrunk when he quit bodybuilding and he couldn't get it back together in time.

Look at his back in Conan the Destroyer though, thing is massive.
 
Everyone knows that arnold should never had won the 1980 MR Olympia, Mentzer , Platz got ripped off. It was all politics with Joe Weider. Arnold looked like he was in steroid withdrawl. He was no where near the best on the stage
 
Matthias1550 said:
I know that. My point is what do you think would happen if he utilized the dosages taken by todays pros? You cant tell me he wouldnt get bigger.

Actually the D-bol taken back in the 60's was a hell of a lot stronger than the d-bol now, taking like 10mg of that stuff was like taking 50 mg of whats available now and most pros put down over 100mg of that shit daily back in Arnies day, Arnie used to pop the pills like they were amino acids or something, those dudes juiced just as much as Ronnie Coleman and the rest of them, load yourself up with 5 grams of test and see how far you go, these guys are FREAKS because of their genetics, Arnie seriously would not even be able to TOUCH Coleman regardless of what he took or ate, Arnie definetly wasn't the greatest in his day too the guy was really over rated man, look at Sergio:

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He owns him in every area apart from chest and arms and thats a pic of when he wasn't in the greatest of shape either.

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Would arnie take Franco Columbo in a pose down... WTF look at him he OBLITERATES Arnie hes way over his head

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Compare him to Arnie, its like taking a 10 year old girl and comparing her to Ronnie Coleman.

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Compare his legs to Arnie.. man Arnie was absolutely sickeningly over rated, he won the Olympia over all these guys, shit I could name ten others who WHOOPED Arnie, all time greatest my ass man
 
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