it doesnt get any better than the one you suggested, bloodyroar. i used it just about every single day of this cycle bro, right after my post workout meal. gained about 28 pounds in ten weeks and have only lost a pound and a half so far, three weeks after finishing my cycle. but to answer your question vitamin b-12 may or may not work for you. i think you only feel effects from b-12 if you are way deficient. alot of folks feel it doesnt do jack shit for them. but it works, even if you dont feel it. equipoise i hear makes you way hungry, although i have yet to use it. maybe two cycles down i will try it. later.