I think its very possible but also very hard. Many just pay attention to the scale and dont do tape measurements. They boast big gains because they tip the scale but also complain about huge losses after the cycle. Well if you eat big time while on ur cycle ur gonna get the most out of ur cycle but ur also gonna gain weight with or without the gear. Im loosing weight on my cycle now but putting on inches all in the right places, maybe not as much as I would if I ate like I should but I think the secret is this. Carbs suck, protein is a must. I use 2 diff proteins, whey and casein. Whey pre and post workout and casein morning and night. I try to keep a 24 hour supply of protein available for my body to use as needed. All my meals are low fat high protein foods,,mainly seafood and brussle sprouts, brocoli etc. I maintain around 1500 cals a day. I know most are reading and say I should be double or triple. Another secret is in the shakes, esecially whey,,dont beleive the hype with what the manufactures tell u. It can have a zillion grams of protein,,ur only gonna absorb what ur body can while its in a small portion of ur intestine,,so do this,,,buy a great quality isolate and a casein,,,mix them with 3 times the water,,,taste like shit but drink them throughout the day. You will absorb every bit of what your paying for and not sh&t the rest down the toilet. I still mix casein full strenght because its naturally slow absorbtion,,,but whey moves through like greased lightning so why drink 27 grams and only absorb 15, your intestines can only absorb about 10 grams per hour and it only spends about an hour and a half in that part that absorbs it. So in short, if your goal is to loose fat/weight and build bulk, you can, you wont get the most out of your gear, eat all proteins and get ur cabs from veggies that also have fiber and protein, work out like a beast,,drink shakes throughout the day and drink caseins at night and morning to keep a 24/7 supply of protein and aminos,,,also forgot,,,cardio pre and post workout, whatever u can handle,,helps my lifts too. Take measurments of the areas ur targeting, biceps, pecs whatever and dont forget the waist where ur wanting to trim. Its slow weight loss but ull gain mass as well...