Uncle question

I've ran Z line test E, great stuff, I have yet to try the EURO line test E.
But I'm sure given Z's reputation is top line too.

Yeah - I get this question all the time ... "which line is better?"

I really can't say - I'll tell you my first impression of the Euro line was that it's "high quality."

And the only reason I say this is because I find the Z Line to also be a very high quality - and at first I was a little hesitant to try anything other than the Z Line.

But just like you - I thought knowing Z he would not carry it if it wasn't a great product.

I ordered it - and it's great...

... so I just alternate the two - there's no reason for one over the other.

The one thing I can say to the new guys - is anything "new" that I haven't tried yet ... I simply just order it.

I haven't ran his Deca yet but I've ordered enough to cover a couple very good cycles for my upcoming cycle ... "I know it will be great!" :)
 
I like the proviron a lot - and here's why...

For me, I look and feel more pumped - it is god for the libido, but my libido is always good - so it's hard to say how much of that is due to proviron ... "I really can't say for sure?"

It's also helpful with free testosterone as well - it's not so effective as far as being anabolic - but its extremely high affinity for plasma binding proteins, such as SHBH can work to potentiate the activity of other steroids by displacing a higher percentage into a free, unbound state - which also make it useful by allowing the displacement of other steroids that are MORE active in these tissues.

It is also used to treat androgen insufficiency - and you should also find this helpful during a dieting phase as it will lower estrogen and raise androgen.

If you were to take winsterol - anavar or primobolan ... proviron can be very helpful to adjust the androgen and estrogen ratio to bring about an increase of hardness - density in muscle - supporting libido - and general sense of well being.

I hope I explained this right as it can seem a little complex - but I do like to run it with all my cycles and I do increase the dose from time to time, which is only based on what I feel like doing at the time ... "that's just how I run sometimes." :)

Good explanation Repo, youare very helpful as always.
I'm gonna be including this on my next cycle, as I see it helps in adjusting the androgen and estrogen ratio, and to bring out an increase of hardness,
And if it increases libido that's always a plus :)
 
Yeah - I get this question all the time ... "which line is better?"

I really can't say - I'll tell you my first impression of the Euro line was that it's "high quality."

And the only reason I say this is because I find the Z Line to also be a very high quality - and at first I was a little hesitant to try anything other than the Z Line.

But just like you - I thought knowing Z he would not carry it if it wasn't a great product.


If you were to take winsterol - anavar or primobolan ... proviron can be very helpful to adjust the androgen and estrogen ratio to bring about an increase of hardness - density in muscle - supporting libido - and general sense of well being.
I ordered it - and it's great...

... so I just alternate the two - there's no reason for one over the other.

The one thing I can say to the new guys - is anything "new" that I haven't tried yet ... I simply just order it.

I haven't ran his Deca yet but I've ordered enough to cover a couple very good cycles for my upcoming cycle ... "I know it will be great!" :)

I hear you, when are you planning on running your Deca ?
 
Yeah - I get this question all the time ... "which line is better?"

I really can't say - I'll tell you my first impression of the Euro line was that it's "high quality."

And the only reason I say this is because I find the Z Line to also be a very high quality - and at first I was a little hesitant to try anything other than the Z Line.

But just like you - I thought knowing Z he would not carry it if it wasn't a great product.

I ordered it - and it's great...

... so I just alternate the two - there's no reason for one over the other.

The one thing I can say to the new guys - is anything "new" that I haven't tried yet ... I simply just order it.

I haven't ran his Deca yet but I've ordered enough to cover a couple very good cycles for my upcoming cycle ... "I know it will be great!" :)

You'll be happy with his Deca for sure man. Good stuff.
 
I hear you, when are you planning on running your Deca ?

I'm planning on sometime in September ... "maybe?"

I have two factors that just might alter the Deca timing.

The first is I'm still seeing very good gains with the tren - so I might run it for a little longer.

And second - I'm planning on running some HGH very soon and need to research what compounds best stack with HGH.

I think Deca will be a great fit - but I still have to study-up on what is actually best with HGH.

@ PUMP THAT - yeah thanks buddy, I've heard so much good stuff about Z's Deca - I have enough to run a very good cycle - all ready to go. :)
 
Repo, I would say it's probably the tren. Stuff makes me PR every week in the gym. And as far as the topic, just ordered some test e from there. Waiting on the shipment!:). Too excited

Hey Biggy - yes you are right.

You'll dig his test e I've been running the Z line and Euro with very good results.

If you run tren again I also recommend both lines of tren.

I'm blasting and cruising so my timelines aren't as much of a concern as most...

... I've been running his tren for some time now end keep on seeing massive gains - I really am ready to switch it up but my body is still responding so well and feeling healthy at the same time - it's making hard to change the cycle at this time.

BUT HGH - is in the next round and looking forward to giving a detail review on the results. :D
 
Repo, have you been using the domestic or international Z line?

I've been using the domestic Z line test cyp for about 5 weeks at 1000mg/week and there is little to nothing in it, I've gained about 2 pounds and feel nothing. Needless to say, I'm pretty disappointed with it. I have some domestic Euro test E and have not tried it as of yet, I'm hoping it's better.
 
I order from Z like 5 days ago and I have gotten emails from him already updateing me on my payment recived and that the order has been shipped. This guy is great he is on top of game. I cant wait to try his gear to see if they are as good as Z himself.
:D
 
Repo, have you been using the domestic or international Z line?

I've been using the domestic Z line test cyp for about 5 weeks at 1000mg/week and there is little to nothing in it, I've gained about 2 pounds and feel nothing. Needless to say, I'm pretty disappointed with it. I have some domestic Euro test E and have not tried it as of yet, I'm hoping it's better.

You notice any sides at all? Are you stacking it with anything? Regardless of that, I would think you should feel something in 5 weeks.
 
Repo, have you been using the domestic or international Z line?

I've been using the domestic Z line test cyp for about 5 weeks at 1000mg/week and there is little to nothing in it, I've gained about 2 pounds and feel nothing. Needless to say, I'm pretty disappointed with it. I have some domestic Euro test E and have not tried it as of yet, I'm hoping it's better.

Almost all of my orders are international - but here's what I can say from my experience in what I've seen from the domestic lines...

I have ran some dome test cyp 20ml jugs that were great - this was from an order back in January - I've also given some to my brother as a gift and he has seen very good results as well - same batch.

Several months a go I ran some test e that was being tested as a new dome line and it was one of the best lines I have ran - however I don't know if this line was ever used on the site - but for me it was awesome - except I told Z I didn't care for the labels ... "I'm just picky - but the test was great!"

I did hear of a concern about the domestic line just after it opened back up a couple months ago - so, I requested an order of "that" test - along with the new Euro test being introduced to the domestic line to compare the two.

Fome those, in both the older and newer line - I did see very good results with both - so I really don't know if that was an isolated situation - but for me I was very happy with all of them.

I've become good friends with Z - and he knows I would not keep quiet if I seen a problem - when he asked me to test the line of domestic several months ago - he wanted my honest opinion on the line before introducing it to all his customers - this is something he does on different levels to make sue everything is at an A+ quality level before it's released.

... so I told him the test was freaking awesome, but the labels kind of sucked! :D

It's hard for me to know for sure with out knowing your the details?

Five weeks should start kicking in by now - but my guess is you have some experience or you would not be running at those levels.

I would jump into the Euro line and see how you respond - if it's the same as I have ran I know it is really good - I hope this helps a little?

Please keep us posted I know Z wants all customers to be happy.
 
You notice any sides at all? Are you stacking it with anything? Regardless of that, I would think you should feel something in 5 weeks.

well, it's really all about having your diet in check/training, you won't feel, or see much unless you have all this factors in check.
 
Almost all of my orders are international - but here's what I can say from my experience in what I've seen from the domestic lines...

I have ran some dome test cyp 20ml jugs that were great - this was from an order back in January - I've also given some to my brother as a gift and he has seen very good results as well - same batch.

Several months a go I ran some test e that was being tested as a new dome line and it was one of the best lines I have ran - however I don't know if this line was ever used on the site - but for me it was awesome - except I told Z I didn't care for the labels ... "I'm just picky - but the test was great!"

I did hear of a concern about the domestic line just after it opened back up a couple months ago - so, I requested an order of "that" test - along with the new Euro test being introduced to the domestic line to compare the two.

Fome those, in both the older and newer line - I did see very good results with both - so I really don't know if that was an isolated situation - but for me I was very happy with all of them.

I've become good friends with Z - and he knows I would not keep quiet if I seen a problem - when he asked me to test the line of domestic several months ago - he wanted my honest opinion on the line before introducing it to all his customers - this is something he does on different levels to make sue everything is at an A+ quality level before it's released.

... so I told him the test was freaking awesome, but the labels kind of sucked! :D

It's hard for me to know for sure with out knowing your the details?

Five weeks should start kicking in by now - but my guess is you have some experience or you would not be running at those levels.

I would jump into the Euro line and see how you respond - if it's the same as I have ran I know it is really good - I hope this helps a little?

Please keep us posted I know Z wants all customers to be happy.

I've also run his Dom Test Cyp, it was great, and I've read nothing but good reviews about it.
 
You notice any sides at all? Are you stacking it with anything? Regardless of that, I would think you should feel something in 5 weeks.

Good question, I should have provided more info. I've been "on" and "off" over the past 10 years so I definitly know what a gram of test is suppose to do and feel like. I have not noticed any sides. I'm fairly prone to gyno and have to use an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) at anything over 500mg. The only thing I'm taking at the moment is the test cyp. I heard a couple people mention that some of batches were underdosed, maybe that's what I received. I'm kind of shocked as Z has been pretty reliable.

I'll give the euro pharm test E a shot and see how it works. I place a post up here in a couple months.

Also, thanks Repo, your comments were helpful.
 
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I order from Z like 5 days ago and I have gotten emails from him already updateing me on my payment recived and that the order has been shipped. This guy is great he is on top of game. I cant wait to try his gear to see if they are as good as Z himself.
:D


U won't be disapointed Brother.
 
So, in all fairness to Z I wanted to say that the Euro Pharm domestic products are good. I've been using them for three weeks and feeing it.
Not sure what the deal with Z line Domestic was.
 
Soon - I will post my progress from the last 10 months with Z.

I was at the doctor today as I go every 6 months - and the weight gain from one year is freaking absolutely NUTS!

This is only running Z's gear - other than AI'S from RUI.

You'll see a new thread started in just a moment. :)
 
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