VM's First Cycle

[VirginMuscle]

I've been training natural for over 9 years now. This will be my log of my first cycle. I start tomorrow. Any and all comments are welcome.

Stats
25yr old
235lbs
6ft

Cycle Plan

W 1-12 Test Cyp 250mg 2x/week
W 1-4 Dbol 10mg 3x/day
W 1-12 Adex 0.25mg eod
W 13-14 Adex 0.125mg eod

PCT
W 15-18 Nolva 40/40/20/20mg /day


Nutrition

8am -
6oz salmon
2cups oatmeal
3 large brown eggs

11am -
7oz chicken
1 banana

2pm -
6oz tuna
1cup oatmeal

5pm -
12oz salmon
1cup oatmeal
1 banana

8pm -
14oz chicken
2cups oatmeal

11pm -
12oz tuna
2 tbsp peanut butter

PWO -
3 scoops Surge

Total breakdown is roughly 40/40/20 macro @ 4900 cal/day to start. Will bump up calories as weight increases.


Training

I will be doing the Big Beyond Belief program I've used in the past with tremendous results. It's a brutal 6 day program that will break you if you don't eat enough. The first 3 weeks are a buildup of volume.

 

[VirginMuscle]

Supplements

3-5g fish oil/day
Opti-men Multivitamin 3x/day
5g creatine in PWO shake
ZMA (I get better sleep)

 

[tjkita]

First cycle

First cycle is usually test only cycle to see how ur body reacts to one chemical at a time. Senior members will tell u that. As for your cycle it looks solid. I run an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) 12.5 ed, but that's preference. Your diet looks good but I'm sure 3J will comment on it, he's the diet expert. Another thing, I don't see any Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG)? Are you using any?

 

[balboa270]

Looks good you can run adex all the way through cycle and post cycle therapy (pct) if ya get any sides bump it up to .5 like the diet but where's the beef its to clean for my taste. So if ya can't get clomid with post cycle therapy (pct) with nolva run adex all the way through

 

[VirginMuscle]

First cycle is usually test only cycle to see how ur body reacts to one chemical at a time. Senior members will tell u that. As for your cycle it looks solid. I run an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) 12.5 ed, but that's preference. Your diet looks good but I'm sure 3J will comment on it, he's the diet expert. Another thing, I don't see any Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG)? Are you using any?

Yeah, I wanted to really take advantage of the first few weeks until the test kicks in though. Unfortunately, no Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG). I had an easier time getting access to HGH than Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) which I thought was funny.

 

[VirginMuscle]

Looks good you can run adex all the way through cycle and post cycle therapy (pct) if ya get any sides bump it up to .5 like the diet but where's the beef its to clean for my taste. So if ya can't get clomid with post cycle therapy (pct) with nolva run adex all the way through

The diet isn't set in stone. I'm not big on beef every day so I'll be substituting it in for something every once in a while. Same with brown rice or something for oatmeal.

Wouldn't running the Aromatase inhibitor (AI) and nolva in post cycle therapy (pct) lower estrogen too much?

 

[balboa270]

The diet isn't set in stone. I'm not big on beef every day so I'll be substituting it in for something every once in a while. Same with brown rice or something for oatmeal.

Wouldn't running the Aromatase inhibitor (AI) and nolva in post cycle therapy (pct) lower estrogen too much?

I thought the same tell I was lined out on it if your just running nolva I see no issues with adex all the way through but I think zeek advizes you alot? Maybe you can ask him but im positive its good bud

 

[3J]

ur eating 57ounces of meat.. that's easily over 400g protein.. you dont need that.. you need to up your carbs.. reduce all your protein to 8 ounces max per serving and then up you carbs in its place.. keep fats low for now.. pay attention to your weight..

dude your spending all this money on gear and a shit ton of protein.. spend a hundred bucks with me on a bulking package (im guessing your bulking with the dbol and test?) ill supervise you and make sure your getting at your goals correctly

remember its 80% diet

 

[*FLEX*]

^^^^This guy is DA MAN! Takes all the guess work out of it.

 

[VirginMuscle]

ur eating 57ounces of meat.. that's easily over 400g protein.. you dont need that.. you need to up your carbs.. reduce all your protein to 8 ounces max per serving and then up you carbs in its place.. keep fats low for now.. pay attention to your weight..

dude your spending all this money on gear and a shit ton of protein.. spend a hundred bucks with me on a bulking package (im guessing your bulking with the dbol and test?) ill supervise you and make sure your getting at your goals correctly

remember its 80% diet

I was going off of what worked for me when bulking at ~3500 calories. Even with my increased appetite yesterday I barely forcefed everything down. I will definitely be lowering protein and upping carbs if for nothing else to get the calories in my stomach. I'm pretty carb sensitive which is why I had reluctance to start off high. I hear nothing but positive things about you so I'll definitely consider it. Thanks.

 

[VirginMuscle]

Day 1 recap

Yesterday I injected for the first time. I was alone and re-watching tutorial videos. I guess I put too much air in the bottle because the top popped. I managed to put it back on and get a cc out without wasting anything. It took me about 5 minutes flicking the air bubbles out. I stood there in the mirror thinking about the decision to inject and made myself a little nervous. I shot my right glute and it went pretty well other than the bottle. Also, I could feel my heart speed up a little each time I took a dbol tab so I'll be completely avoiding caffeine while on.

I had a good pump going today

Workout
Lat Pulldowns
BB Incline
EZ bar curls
Seated calf raises

 

[balboa270]

Your lid popped off? Dammmmmm never had that ever Shit how you save all the juice. Great first day post I hear ya on the jitters lol

 

[VirginMuscle]

Your lid popped off? Dammmmmm never had that ever Shit how you save all the juice. Great first day post I hear ya on the jitters lol

I got lucky and had quick enough reactions to lower the angle of the bottle. I put just a little over 1cc of air into it. When I drew from it I kept my thumb and forefinger pressed on the rubber just in case it would fall off.

It was a weird feeling. I paused for a second, went through with it, then thought about it again thinking "I can't believe I just did this" lol. My glute has only been a little sore. I kept pressure on it for about 2 minutes so maybe that helped. No discoloration or unusual markings.

 

[VirginMuscle]

Day 2

I hit on some girl I see everyday about 2 weeks ago and she shut me down. Today she was all smiles, positive body language and started sending me text msgs. I could swear she can sense the change in hormones.

I had a killer pump going after close-grips.

Workout

Seated BB Press
Close-grip decline
Squats
Ab wheel on toes

 

[leanbody]

Day 2

I hit on some girl I see everyday about 2 weeks ago and she shut me down. Today she was all smiles, positive body language and started sending me text msgs. I could swear she can sense the change in hormones.

I had a killer pump going after close-grips.

Workout

Seated BB Press
Close-grip decline
Squats
Ab wheel on toes

Well that must have been nice..... you and all your hormones attracting chicks like bees to a flower....LOL

Nice start to the log. what size pins are u using?

I def agree that a few bucks spent with 3J will get you 200% more out of this cycle. you may as well get as much out of it as you can, since it's your first and you are a prime age to gain fast. I dont know what your BF is, but it is possible to do a clean bulk and actually maintain or lose BF while on cycle. 3J is the man to go to!

 

[VirginMuscle]

Day 3 recap

Feeling a general sense of well-being from the dbol.

Workout

DB Bench
DB Row
DB Hammer Curls
Calf Press

 

[VirginMuscle]

Nice start to the log. what size pins are u using?

Using 23 gauge for both draw and inject.

 

[VirginMuscle]

Day 4

I shot my left quad today. The whole process went a lot smoother now that I've done it before. I went in pretty fast but I felt the pain going in this time.

My entire body is very sore and stretching out is giving me a pump now. I felt very strong in the gym today. I might be paranoid but I think some of the regulars can tell already.


Workout

DB Seated Shoulder Press
Weighted Dips
Leg Curls
Hanging Pikes

 

[leanbody]

Using 23 gauge for both draw and inject.

you might want to look into 18 or 20 to draw and then a fresh 25 to pin. You'll end up with less scar tissue that way, plus you dont dull the needle poking the rubber stopper first.

 

[VirginMuscle]

you might want to look into 18 or 20 to draw and then a fresh 25 to pin. You'll end up with less scar tissue that way, plus you dont dull the needle poking the rubber stopper first.

I guess I should have been more clear. I replace the needle after I draw but I'm using 23 for both drawing and injection. Since I'm going to be rotating about 6 sites I wanted to make it as simple as possible for myself when buying them. I thought I would be in pain today but so far it's just minor soreness. I thought it was going to be terrible after reading how some people react to their first injections.