What is your max bench?

[jarbulldog]

i dont max out but my last set 285x4 i am 5'4 188lbs propally around 10%bf

 

[BigRonWannabee]

the key to adding muscle mass is moving heavier weight. weight on the bar = muscle on the bones. that wanting to look strong rather than being strong dont hold water. you seen ronnie workout? case closed.

Case reopened...get jays video. I seen some gym rats that can move the same weight. He even explains why he doesnt lift heavy (am assuming he's reffering to ronnie the way he explains it).

 

[hunter21]

By mass, do you mean fat? More Muscle size equals more strength.

How do you get bigger without getting stronger? Must be a water gain, or a fat gain....

hmmm, this is steroidology, what would make you think that anybody works out to gain fat or water, you r a fukn idiot.........heres and example....ronnie coleman trains for mass although strength goes up as well but not his main priority, ever wonder why bodybuilders dont use 400lb dumbells for curls....Savicas trains for strength..(i think i spelled his name right).he is a big guy but he trains for strength, size comes along with that but not his main concern...i know guys who are way smaller than me that bench more also..i know guys who are bigger and bench less....when i had 16 inch arms i curled more than i do now with 17.5.i use less weight with more strict form.....guess it must be water

 

[Golden_Muscle]

hmmm, this is steroidology, what would make you think that anybody works out to gain fat or water, you r a fukn idiot.........heres and example....ronnie coleman trains for mass although strength goes up as well but not his main priority, ever wonder why bodybuilders dont use 400lb dumbells for curls....Savicas trains for strength..(i think i spelled his name right).he is a big guy but he trains for strength, size comes along with that but not his main concern...i know guys who are way smaller than me that bench more also..i know guys who are bigger and bench less....when i had 16 inch arms i curled more than i do now with 17.5.i use less weight with more strict form.....guess it must be water

Im stupid. I lose...........

Sorry dude......I gotta get my head out of my ass or something...

 

[Thompson]

got you all beat, put up 215 a few days ago


ill be with you guys soon enough.....

 

[ssmla123]

I can do an easy 315, need to get a lifting partner someday so I can max out for rizzle.

 

[jcp2]

Case reopened...get jays video. I seen some gym rats that can move the same weight. He even explains why he doesnt lift heavy (am assuming he's reffering to ronnie the way he explains it).

IF you don't think he put that weight on by lifting heavy, you are fooling yourself. It may not take much weight wise, not drug wise, to keep the size, but it was forged with some big weigths.

 

[DADAWG]

IF you don't think he put that weight on by lifting heavy, you are fooling yourself. It may not take much weight wise, not drug wise, to keep the size, but it was forged with some big weigths.

hes been reading to many muscle and fitness mags

 

[big syd]

405

 

[pullinbig]

I got news for Jay. he could ber bigger if he trained heavy. he prefers reps. BTW how many times he beat ronnie head up? heavy weight builds mass like no other kinda training. if you wanna cop out to lighter training then go ahead but dont say that lighter training builds more muscle mass. it just aint true. thats like saying a VW is bigger than a liclon. any of you guys training light and makinggains could be making better gains. liftig heavy takes gonads. this is where most BBers miss out. they scared to back out with a weight that might crush them. scare to unrack 600lbs out of the bench stand because it might crucsh they larinx. scare to pull 700lbs cayse they might get hurt or worse get embarassed. other than a couple od BBers (who train heavy) in my gym we have run the rest off because of statements like these. thay all left and went to the BBng gym on the other side of town. i go over there ocassionally just to aggrevate them. they hate to see me coming. cause they ove there doing cable incline flies with e screaming and hollering like littl ebitches. 40lbs worth. ohhh but its strict form. big stretch, full extension, short breaks between sets (they got they watches on timing them) make sme sick. some of them are the same size now as they were three years ago. 5 sets of 10 incline, 5 sets of 10 decline dB, 5 sets of 10 flies, 5 sets of 10 db pull overs.

leg day

5 x 10 leg extensions
5 x 10 leg curls
5 x 10 1 legged leg curls.
5 x 10 sinlge alternating leg ext.
5 x 10 leg press wth 300lbs.

etc........ sissy ass workouts. jack lalane did this shit in the 50s. lift heavy get big. i'll not back down from this one. why? cause i am100% correct on this one.

oh and yall have a nice day.

 

[hunter21]

i'm with you to an extent. heavy weights do build muscle the best but, when your doing sets of 1-3 reps i dont see how that is breaking down the muscle that much...I personally get better results from 6-10 reps with a heavy (but not so heavy that im cheating to bench an extra 20lbs) weight that i can barley finish my last rep each set, but thats just me.

 

[DADAWG]

i'm with you to an extent. heavy weights do build muscle the best but, when your doing sets of 1-3 reps i dont see how that is breaking down the muscle that much...I personally get better results from 6-10 reps with a heavy (but not so heavy that im cheating to bench an extra 20lbs) weight that i can barley finish my last rep each set, but thats just me.

who says you cant do 5 sets of 3 instead of 3 sets of 5 if you feel you need more reps . some people do 12-15 singles in bench.squat,deads

 

[hunter21]

who says,,??me..But thats just for me, you may like 5 sets of 3 better..
I respond and feel safer with more reps, i remember in high school we had to max out on everything, my shoulders never hurt so bad in my life.. I hardly even get a pump in my chest either, i like a little higher rep range than 3 bro. I guess with a real heavy weight i dont isolate the chest muscles enough, seems to be more of a shoulder workout for me.

 

[w00t]

you probably do what i do... with heavy weight, you pull the bar closer to your face to bring in those o so powerful shoulders, its a habit from bad coaching in HS, if you keep the bar in proper position and have a good arch in your back so you can drive with the legs, it eliminates the shoulder work all together just got to have a spotter for sure

 

[pullinbig]

forced or assisted reps are a major muscle builder as long as you keep your form and let the spotter do his job. on squats i do one all out set to failure and thats it. i can tell you this as well. every so often i max out on a lift. last max was squat. i hit 805 for a single and was as sore as if i had done a set of 605 for 10. if you got injuries train around them but dont say you get better results off less weight. you have to remember that even if you do 1 set of 20 reps if the last frew are tough then you went heavy for that set. i have no prob with higher reps, they should be included in any routine periodically as should low rep stuff. train to failure and watch those chicken legs grow.

 

[hunter21]

Pullinbig, what would you recommend for someone whos chest wont grow, theyre nice and thick on the outside, (way outside, right along the delt.). The middle and inside are horribe..... Ive tried the heavy weight low reps stuff, just doesnt work for me. By low reps i mean 4 reps or less. i feel great pumps with a 6 rep, but i do use a weight that is heavy enough to make the last 2-3 reps of each set very tough...I use my shoulders alot and have tried everything to try and isolate chest movements, any technique to keep the shoulders out of the pressing movements (not totally).????

 

[pullinbig]

db presses laid over a ab ball. big stretch. also medium grip declines seem to hit my pecs towards the center of my chest. arms close to sides db presses with hands parrallel to body. bring them down below pecs towards the belly. of course with any compound movent you cannot iso a specific area. chest is one of those ares which is hard to iso. it has a lot to do with genetics as well for chest development.

 

[Golden_Muscle]

db presses laid over a ab ball. big stretch. also medium grip declines seem to hit my pecs towards the center of my chest. arms close to sides db presses with hands parrallel to body. bring them down below pecs towards the belly. of course with any compound movent you cannot iso a specific area. chest is one of those ares which is hard to iso. it has a lot to do with genetics as well for chest development.

I guess you would need good balance because the bumbbells would be heavy enough to tip you over. How would you do that corrrectly?

 

[A-rod]

By mass, do you mean fat? More Muscle size equals more strength.

How do you get bigger without getting stronger? Must be a water gain, or a fat gain....

To increase strenght w/o size you have to increase CNS efficiency , the best way to do it would be lots of heavy singles and dynamic benching with light weights ( around 55 % RM )

 

[A-rod]

db presses laid over a ab ball. big stretch. also medium grip declines seem to hit my pecs towards the center of my chest. arms close to sides db presses with hands parrallel to body. bring them down below pecs towards the belly. of course with any compound movent you cannot iso a specific area. chest is one of those ares which is hard to iso. it has a lot to do with genetics as well for chest development.

How can you hit the inner pecs , the muscle fibers run perpendiculary meaning that the whole muscle will contract , from outer to inner, w/o possibility of emphasis on one or another end of the fibers