Why do so many people hate deca?
- Thread starter Dlove
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gator_mclusky
Man on a Mission
I love it. Had NO prollems w/ it. Stacks w/ everything IMO. No Deca dick here.
jediclampet
not a wigger
The main downside to deca, IMO, is the looong ester. NPP is some great shit though!
jediclampet
not a wigger
Dlove said:
-More bloat
-Harder to control hormone levels
-Must either frontload or wait to build up levels at the beginning of the cycle
-Harder to time pct
-if you experience unwanted sides (e.g. deca dick) you gotta wait longer for them to subside
-less hormone (more ester) per milligram of gear
...I might be forgetting some
SprtNVolcoM
New member
Deca is garbage....
jarbulldog
bulldog god
i love what it does for my joints
magicstick2003
New member
i liked it as far as mass addition went but i hated it for post cycle therapy (pct) it made it like hell. took a lot longer then with test along for my nuts to fully recover. detection time is no real problem unless you get tested for AS which is of no concern to me. Plan on running it again but i think i will be using HCG to prevent atrophy in the first place and hopefully make recovery easier.
StoneColdNTO
Administrator
.jediclampet said:
jediclampet
not a wigger
In defense of my list of negative aspects of short esters:StoneColdNTO said:
-It is not true that most people bloat more on long esters? Compare test prop to enan or cyp. The common belief is that people tend to bloat more with deca vs. npp.
-When I said "harder to control hormone levels", I was really refereing to the next two points (getting hormone levels up at the beginning of the cycle and timing post cycle therapy (pct) at the end)
-When I said it's harder to time pct, I mean with prop, the gear is in and out of your system very quickly so you can beging to recover sooner. With long esters like deca, you can start your post cycle therapy (pct) at precisely 3 weeks or whenever but there will still be exogenous hormone floating around for quite a while, thereby hindering recovery (so I guess this is really the same problem as sides persisiting longer).
The importance of any of these points is debatable but I know that I will choose npp over deca for my purposes everytime.
One could easily make a list of advantages of long esters too. Less frequent injections obviously. Also, people say they get a much more pronounced benefit from joint lubrication for deca vs npp...
jcp2
Community Veteran
jediclampet said:
I have heard from numerous people that they bloat more on prop. I don't think i do, but most peope run prop when dieting, less simple carbs less bloat.
I don't know, i personally have never had a problem timing recovery on anything. Also keeping blood levels even is easy on long esthers, and building up to even blood levels is not an issue. Not sure why that was mentioned, i still gain alot of weight the first 4 weeks on long esthers.
Recovery may be easier on NPP, that has been stated by many, so i may have to beleive it.
