WTF I'm tired of the bashing with no labs to back it up!

Ya bro Wtf. These kids on a 400mg/wk if test e on the fourth week say Wtf my shits fake. Well mist likey they're eating like a middle school cheerleader and they can't figure out why. A lot of these guys get this great idea that they take a shot and the next day they look like Arnold. They also fail to read cycle logs and stuff like that. They expect as soon as the fourth week hits they should feel,like king Kong as well lol. They just don't realize that these long esters are kinda like a slow and steady gain. But don't show blood work to prove it. It takes years and years to get where most wanna be. Just stfu show bloodwork and if not go f yourself and stop bashing sources that we all know are good. So obviously your not doing something right.
 
if the stuff proves through labs to be weak, people should know, whether you've talked to the source and they've 'made it right' or not. people get so butthurt over 'their' source taking some heat. sometimes it is warranted. sometimes it isn't. and yes people call wolf way too much, but commenting on it can still open other people's eyes. maybe some other guys come and say "hey, you know what, i was kinda wondering the same thing".... maybe that leads to more getting labs and figuring out something is up.

underdosing is 9 times out of 10 intentional. it simply is not that difficult to dose properly. it is an intentional, shady business practice. if it is going on, that shit NEEDS to be called out.
 
Thanks for the advice Jomo I been in this game 20+ years I am fairly certain I know how to handle my own issues!

I would also advocate any one feeling the got sapped do exactly what Jomo said! always comunicate with you man! give him a chance before posting shit talk cause if I were your man and u talked shit before talking to me I would burn ya on principle alone!

I wasn't doubting your ability to do so Phat. I know you have been in the game that long, no argument here. Just putting my 2 cents in steps they should take before bashing.
 
THANK YOU!

I can't wait to shut these guys up about our Uncle. I'm sick of seeing this is my first time and I think I got ripped off because I'm not seeing anything. I gained 25lbs on my first cycle and kept 23 of them, because I knew how to fuckin eat!!
 
THANK YOU!

I can't wait to shut these guys up about our Uncle. I'm sick of seeing this is my first time and I think I got ripped off because I'm not seeing anything. I gained 25lbs on my first cycle and kept 23 of them, because I knew how to fuckin eat!!

You're so sexy when you're angry
 
THANK YOU!

I can't wait to shut these guys up about our Uncle. I'm sick of seeing this is my first time and I think I got ripped off because I'm not seeing anything. I gained 25lbs on my first cycle and kept 23 of them, because I knew how to fuckin eat!!

Amen bro.
 
genuine question.... why do you guys care so much what people think of our uncle? if people choose to look elsewhere because of what they feel is a bad experience, why does that distress you so much? i don't really care one way or the other, i'm just curious why people get so upset about it when it is our uncle. people talk about labs left and right on these boards, but whenever anyone brings up the labs he carries there's a host of people waiting to jump down their throats. or that's kind of how it looks from an outsider's perspective.
 
Its all about how u feel, feeling it tells me if its real or not, you have to feel it in you, feeeeeelings, Woe, Woe, Woe, Feeeeeeelings from my heart.................

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The 2010 and beyond juicer is a "feelings guy". I've never seen so many crybabies in my 35 years in this game.

Cry me a RIVER (barfing).
 
I am nothing short of amazed "someone" isn't offended by this big mean man. When you find this you better run to your "list of powerful sympathizers" and tell on this mean guy.

Intellect cannot be taught.
 
genuine question.... why do you guys care so much what people think of our uncle? if people choose to look elsewhere because of what they feel is a bad experience, why does that distress you so much? i don't really care one way or the other, i'm just curious why people get so upset about it when it is our uncle. people talk about labs left and right on these boards, but whenever anyone brings up the labs he carries there's a host of people waiting to jump down their throats. or that's kind of how it looks from an outsider's perspective.

This is because our uncle is like family here. Him and his reps go out of there way to make themselves part of our community by sponsoring sites like the one you're on, holding competitions with prizes for the winners, and offering support to help us all with their years of experience.

Now I'm not saying he's the only source I ever order through. But he's kind of like old faithful, always there sending out great gear. So if you're gonna bash someone that puts that much effort into supporting all of us in some way or another I think you should better have some damn proof.
 
I love you guys. Its like 1 big disfunctional family so it hits home for me :thefinger . Honestly, I'm not gonna sugar coat shit. This dude honestly is fucking asking to get bad gear and I know who posted that dumb shit and I hope he sees this before "BASHING" rep guys that want us happy

1. Dont trust word of mouth. Just because somebody else uses it and supposedly gets "JACKED" on his first cycle. Well I'll trust that as about as much as a Thailand hooker after I've had too many jack and cokes.
2. He didnt have a baseline bloodtest before he cycled, so WTF do you have to compare a bloodtest to while on cycle
3.If he wouldve done these things, then he couldve shown the "man" is was underdosed or bunk and if he really has a great rep like some of them do and want to maintain your buisness, then he would've reshipped because he wants you happy.

But most new guys dont do any of these things because they think everybody is gonna hand them shit. DO YOUR RESEARCH AND YOU WONT LOOK DUMB.
 
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baseline test results don't really matter that much when trying to show whether gear is legitimately raising them or not. the only time that would come into question is if the person is doing, for example, 300mg/week of test-e, and their results come back at 1200.... well, they might be on bunk stuff but had 1200 to start (unlikely i know, just saying).....

exogenous test WILL increase the hormone level in your blood. it doesn't matter who you are, your levels will jump, on a 'standard' dose of 500mg-600mg, they will skyrocket and will DEFINITELY be 'off the charts' (>1500). your starting natty test production doesn't matter because you're not using it anymore.

but i see your point infantry.
 
This is because our uncle is like family here. Him and his reps go out of there way to make themselves part of our community by sponsoring sites like the one you're on, holding competitions with prizes for the winners, and offering support to help us all with their years of experience.

Now I'm not saying he's the only source I ever order through. But he's kind of like old faithful, always there sending out great gear. So if you're gonna bash someone that puts that much effort into supporting all of us in some way or another I think you should better have some damn proof.

i guess i just see things a bit differently in general. i see your point though. but it isn't always 'bashing', sometimes there ARE (and have been) legitimate complaints. people SHOULD feel like they can raise those concerns not only with the source in private (who will make it right because that is smart business, never mind it being the 'right' thing to do) but publicly so that awareness can also rise in case the problem is not an isolated occurrence.

example:
source a underdoses stuff at 80% of labeled doses.

100 people make purchases. 10 realize something is off, get things checked, whatever, they go back to the source, he makes it right with those 10. beyond that, it is his prerogative whether to come clean on the underdosing and solve it for everyone or pretend like it didn't exist and count his bills from the other 90 peeps all the way to the bank.

frankly, i don't trust many sponsors to do much self policing. that's because they usually don't. if anything, things lean more towards the opposite, things get brushed under rugs. overlooked, ignored..... and that ends up hurting the very community they are trying to be a part of.

i'm not 'bashing' our uncle with that statement, just saying in what i've seen over the years in this game, that's pretty typical.

honestly my only real gripe is the unreasonable markup on everything. in that kind of situation, to me, that sort of counters the positive things someone may do for people or a community. but most are in this game solely for the benjamins so it doesn't come as a shock when i see it.
 
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guys pretty sure my gear is fake!! im taking 1200mg a week and havent gained a pound yet. im taking test e. i eat a ton close to 1500 calories!!! its so hard to eat that much... its been four days since i started and i havent gained a pound! must be fake!!!!!!!!
 
get better gear bro. or just take like 3g or so instead of 1.2 to make up for the obvious massive underdosing. you may have to pin 6 sites a day, every day, but TRUST ME, it'll be worth it!
 
Yeah i think if you go down to 1000 calories a day you will start gaining faster and start pumping 3g's a day. Make sure you use 20 gauge pins tho!
 
genuine question.... why do you guys care so much what people think of our uncle? if people choose to look elsewhere because of what they feel is a bad experience, why does that distress you so much? i don't really care one way or the other, i'm just curious why people get so upset about it when it is our uncle. people talk about labs left and right on these boards, but whenever anyone brings up the labs he carries there's a host of people waiting to jump down their throats. or that's kind of how it looks from an outsider's perspective.

Because he's a stand up source that has always done whatever it takes to make an order right. That's hard to find in the business and when people without any evidence come on the boards and bad mouth him it's most likely because they have an agenda.

underdosing is 9 times out of 10 intentional. it simply is not that difficult to dose properly. it is an intentional, shady business practice. if it is going on, that shit NEEDS to be called out.

This is simply not correct. Most of the time it's because the raws that they got from their supplier were bad in some way or in the case of sources that have domestic repackagers or bottlers something may have happened in the distribution chain.
 
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