ANavar questions, experiences/opinions please :-))

[frenchy121]

Hey ladies

I'm a hard lifter etc, how would Anavar benefit me? Will it make me look hard and awsome? I have read it is a mild steroid?

Basically how could i benefit from this, what are the sides and what are the cycles etc? Will I get any long term sides?

please reply all options and opinions welcome, pref all experiences.

Thanks all!!

 

[Detour5]

Hi frenchy,

I think for the best response to your question you should outline your goals so that people can give you a more descriptive answer. I've never used anavar, but know people who have - including potential sides. In my opinion, if you want long term results, you can achieve that naturally with proper diet and training. The thing about taking supplements (OTC or steroids) is that you still need to have the diet and training in place first anyway. I know it's a hard thing to do and it seems easier to do the drugs, but it really isn't.

If you are competing or heavy in sports, then it's possibly worth enquiring about to push yourself beyond your genetic potential. If it's a question of just looking better, then make sure the other pillars are in place first.

Good luck

 

[frenchy121]

Thanks for the response

I've been training for a few years, I have myt training in check and my diet. I'm looking for the hard muscle look more defined etc and want to increase my strength.

To what I know it's quite safe and not to harsh on the liver and in my opinion going out on the piss every weekend would prob do more harm to your liver than doing an 8 week anavar cycle!!? I don't drink by the way...

 

[Detour5]

Depends what you mean by "hard look". Could you post a picture so we get more of an idea of what you're expecting. A lot of people think that their diet/training is in check and doing minor tweaks here and there can make a massive difference overall. Not saying that's your case, but it's possible. Maybe post up your diet for critique with your full body stats and age so that we can see if you're on the right path. TBH most people fall at the dieting hurdle because it's that constant behaviour that keeps the body lean. Eating healthy isn't the same as eating clean ...

The liver regenerates very quickly so an odd weekend lash wouldn't break it! But I don't drink either!

 

[frenchy121]

How do I post pics on here? Am I able to log on via my iphone and upload it that way? By hard look I mean doesn't it give the muscles more of that affect?

I'm 27, female, 5'5, 130Ibs, 20% bf.

Breakfast: 5 egg whites, cup dry oats (I carb cycle so no training days I will have a protein shake instead of the oats)

Snack: 6oz turkey steak with green salad/or tuna with brown pasta.

meal 2: 6oz chicken breast with small sweet potato.

Snack: Protein shake/ sliced turkey

Meal 3:Meat - either steak, chicken or turkey with green vegaetables.

Pretty similar most days but some I eat carbs with all meals and others drop carbs off after lunch.
I train at 6am so no time to have anything before as I can't imagine getting up at 5am in the winter, it's cold in the UK ! ;-)

Training: saturday-Back and triceps
sunday: shoulders and biceps
monday: rest
tuesday: cardio - spinning 45 mins
wednesday: legs & chest
Thursday: cardio - spinning 45 mins
Friday: rest- but not always i may do abs and back, always 5 day a week training sometimes 6, but usually change my rest day each week. At the weekends as I have more time I always add in 30 mins of cardio.

I drink around 3 litres of water a day - I know I need more fat in my diet, I don't like nuts but sometimes havea spoonfull of organic natural peanut butter as I like that.

I would love to compete one day, I really want to look amazing! Don't we all??

I need complex carbs as if I don't I crave chocolate, I love chocolate but I have managed not to have any for a while- that's my only bad thing I would say..

 

[shulson]

There can also be side effects that you should take into account. Everyone reacts different to different substances! just keep that in mind!

 

[frenchy121]

Yeah I know everyone is different, the only sides I have ever heard from research is spots and oily skin, plus if u abuse then yr asking for trouble, I'm looking at 8 weeks 10mg max

 

[Detour5]

Never tried to upload from my phone but is it possible for you to do it from your computer?
I live in the UK too, I get you on the cold weather, but I wanted it bad enough to do it - but I did it to prep for comp.

You certainly need to change your diet by adding fat to it, that will help crush cravings. Also, don't get fooled into thinking carbs are bad, just know when and how to eat them.

Do you know your caloric intake? And your total energy expenditure? It's mainly a balancing act of energy in v energy out.
If you're comparing the hard look with a competition look, don't. You can look in shape all year round, but competition shape all year round is very hard to achieve. Other than diet, water manipulation is often involved and other techniques for that one day on stage that you can't possibly maintain. You can maintain a healthy lean physique that's realistic year round, but that will be from changing up diet/training. I see your split, but not actual exercises. So I can't say what is good in your training without knowing what it is.

I find the trick is to keep it simple.

How do I post pics on here? Am I able to log on via my iphone and upload it that way? By hard look I mean doesn't it give the muscles more of that affect?

I'm 27, female, 5'5, 130Ibs, 20% bf.

Breakfast: 5 egg whites, cup dry oats (I carb cycle so no training days I will have a protein shake instead of the oats)

Snack: 6oz turkey steak with green salad/or tuna with brown pasta.

meal 2: 6oz chicken breast with small sweet potato.

Snack: Protein shake/ sliced turkey

Meal 3:Meat - either steak, chicken or turkey with green vegaetables.

Pretty similar most days but some I eat carbs with all meals and others drop carbs off after lunch.
I train at 6am so no time to have anything before as I can't imagine getting up at 5am in the winter, it's cold in the UK ! ;-)

Training: saturday-Back and triceps
sunday: shoulders and biceps
monday: rest
tuesday: cardio - spinning 45 mins
wednesday: legs & chest
Thursday: cardio - spinning 45 mins
Friday: rest- but not always i may do abs and back, always 5 day a week training sometimes 6, but usually change my rest day each week. At the weekends as I have more time I always add in 30 mins of cardio.

I drink around 3 litres of water a day - I know I need more fat in my diet, I don't like nuts but sometimes havea spoonfull of organic natural peanut butter as I like that.

I would love to compete one day, I really want to look amazing! Don't we all??

I need complex carbs as if I don't I crave chocolate, I love chocolate but I have managed not to have any for a while- that's my only bad thing I would say..

 

[frenchy121]

Hi
I know carbs are not bad. I cut them
Out for 2 weeks once and lost 3% bf though.
I do keep my training simple- chins/lat pull down/cable row/bent over row/dumbel one arm row - back.

Legs- squat/ front squat/walking barbell and dumbel lunge/leg curl/deadlift/standing calf raise (smiths machine)

Tricep- French press/decline bench dumbbell press/dips/rope pull down/kick backs

Bicep- ez bar curl/dumbel curl/hammers(rope&dumbell)../ cable curls

Shoulders- military press/upright rows/lat raises/cable front raises/dumbbell press

Chest- now and again! Just coz it makes me flat chested.

In the 10-12 rep range. I have done the 6's etc but it's good to change.

How do I work out my macros ?? I have done but can't remember x

 

[frenchy121]

Detour5, speaking of diet I was looking at doing this one, as want to cut fat but retain puscle.. check out this link and let me know your thoughtd please

A fitness competitor's diet Muscle and Fitness Hers

 

[Mrs P]

Detour5, speaking of diet I was looking at doing this one, as want to cut fat but retain puscle.. check out this link and let me know your thoughtd please

A fitness competitor's diet Muscle and Fitness Hers

Great advise like always Detour

Frenchi,
The diet posted on the link is very similar to my diet, what u need to keep in mind is your total daily energy expenditure, the diet on this link is for a 140 lbs women, but she could have a lower of higher BF than u, so the diet might be higher or lower in calories than what u need.

I don't agree with replacing 2 meals with meal replacement shakes in week 3, I do drink a protein shake post workout, but, I believe you should never replace food, when fodd is available it's always better to get your nutrients from food.

For me what works really good when trying to lean out is carb cycling.

 

[frenchy121]

Hello thanks for the advice. Yeah I know it's based on 140lb woman, I'm actually 130lb. I just get so confused, can you give a carb cycle example please? Like what your week would look like?

If I don't eat carbs I crave sugar and go crazy wanting chocolate! Now I'm eating more carbs throughout the day (only complex) I find these cravings go... I always train at 6am during the week, if it's a cardio session I usually spin as it HIIT and I feel great and I think that it's roughly a 500-600 calorie burn. I do my weight splits 3x per week, legs on a wednesday 2x spinning sessions a week. saturday back/triceps - always add some cardio as I have longer at the weekend and usually spend 2 hours training, 2 hours training sunday shoulders/biceps and usually superset to keep my heart rate up there.

My job involves me then to be sat in front of a computer.. help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks - but do you think the diet I posted would be worth it for 8 weeks?

Cheers

 

[Detour5]

Thank Mrs P

Hey girl! Personally I think that diet is very low in fat and not something that you can realistically live off. You would be better off getting a diet tailored for your individual needs. The problem with following a diet like that from a magazine is, that for your personal goals, it will always need adjusting to keep the weight coming off, if you do the guess work you could totally halt things, whereas someone in the know could make adjustments for you with their informed opinions and knowledge to keep you on track. This diet doesn't know your total energy expenditure and could be the totally wrong amount and type of calories for you. Ever notice how magazine diets are never the same, always contradict themselves and never seem to show longterm solutions?!

Not saying you couldn't do it, but consulting with someone weekly helps to keep you on track and helps you to stay motivated. After that, you get a real good idea of how your body works, and what works for you mentally too. Lots of these diets work, in fact nearly all of them do - but what really matters is if you can stick to it and realistically live off it. I know I couldn't live off that diet, I need a good balance of carbs, protein and fat.

Hope this helps.

 

[frenchy121]

I heard 3J is pretty spot on with diet plans? This one I found is for cutting I believe, I would only do something like this for 8 weeks. I need something for when I do my avavar cycle, what I eat at the min is reasonably ok but I need more fat. How do I workout my all my macros for fat loss? I.e grams of proteins fats and carbs?

 

[Detour5]

3j seems to be the man on here, just be truthful with activity levels and current diet with measurements etc, and he can workout your macros etc. Although I'm able to do that, I never do it for myself, and I would only bother doin it properly for someone else (payed advice) his diet thread gives you the bare bones of what you need, for free

Good luck.

 

[3J]

I heard 3J is pretty spot on with diet plans? This one I found is for cutting I believe, I would only do something like this for 8 weeks. I need something for when I do my avavar cycle, what I eat at the min is reasonably ok but I need more fat. How do I workout my all my macros for fat loss? I.e grams of proteins fats and carbs?

frenchy if your looking to become a client but your finances are troubling email me.. im sure we can work something out.. 3jdiet@gmail.com