Roids for boxer: cardio, endurance, strength, power, speed

[AK47]

Hello
I am 30 years old 6' tall and 180 lb. Don't know my body fat though. But for sure I could get to 160 lb on a good diet.
I am an amateur boxer. Used to train and participate a lot back in a days, but quit for almost 10 years. And trying to get back to it for couple more fights. So here what it is: i KILLED my body with cigarettes. I am still smoking, but less and less so I'll quit soon. And now my problem is that when i get into the ring for sparring I am doing good what takes technic and skills, but I am dead after first round. I am back to boxing 3months already, but my endurance and cardio sucks big time. When I go for a run I can run miles and miles, but as soon as I step in to the ring I am good for one round. I know it's smoking (I am guilty).
I need good endurance and cardio so I could last longer in the ring.
If anyone could help me with:
Endurance, cardio, explosiveness, strength, power, speed.

 

[PrinceDianabol]

Gear is gonna slow you down.

Try GW-50. It's probably the best compound I've come across when it comes to endurance training.

 

[Teutonic]

smoking and endurance do notmix..but I do it any way..5-6 aday

aas and endurance are not real synergestic to boxing either I m o as they are to build muscle MASS or in strict dietary times or for medical purposes TO alleviate muscle atrophy LIKE IN AIDS PATIENTS OR EMACIATION CASES.....

others will say contrary stuff and I m anxious to here what they say.

 

[3J]

i actually disagree.. running a lower mg cycle like 400mg a week will increase hemo... raising the amount of oxygen that can reach muscles..

EPO would also be another good choice for endurance.. as for other gear.. i wouldn't touch anything other than test...

i do a high performance sport... jiu jitsu.. and starting trt i have seen an increase in endurance

 

[AK47]

what about strength, explosiveness and power?

 

[RR88]

3J, with test the muscular gain will outweigh the benefits of increased RBC with oxygenation of the blood to the muscles. With battles of water retention and increased blood pressure it's clearly a negative in my opinion. I think with I higher TRT dosages it could for sure be beneficial. I think with test you gotta find that balance. For an athlete under 220mgs of test a week would increase collagen synthesis (any higher and it's the opposite) ,increase oxygen capacity in regards to transport to muscle cells and simply faster healing. No disrespect intended 3J just healthy debate. I actually have read lots of beneficial stuff from you. You know your shit! I'd say low dose test and EQ mid range oxandrolone may work but that's if you got in shape first and didn't smoke! Test as base and General benefits, to EQ and endurance, to Ox with ATP replenishment (adenosine tri phosphate) for explosive anaerobic aspects like power punches. Just my thoughts but I think just stay natural for next while. Also Teutonic what's this GW 50? Il google of course lol but would like your take on it.

 

[jozifp103]

3J, with test the muscular gain will outweigh the benefits of increased RBC with oxygenation of the blood to the muscles. With battles of water retention and increased blood pressure it's clearly a negative in my opinion. I think with I higher TRT dosages it could for sure be beneficial. I think with test you gotta find that balance. For an athlete under 220mgs of test a week would increase collagen synthesis (any higher and it's the opposite) ,increase oxygen capacity in regards to transport to muscle cells and simply faster healing. No disrespect intended 3J just healthy debate. I actually have read lots of beneficial stuff from you. You know your shit! I'd say low dose test and EQ mid range oxandrolone may work but that's if you got in shape first and didn't smoke! Test as base and General benefits, to EQ and endurance, to Ox with ATP replenishment (adenosine tri phosphate) for explosive anaerobic aspects like power punches. Just my thoughts but I think just stay natural for next while. Also Teutonic what's this GW 50? Il google of course lol but would like your take on it.

if you don't eat to grow, you're not gonna put on mass, even with a high test dose. it will probably help with oxygen transportation, and recovery from long hard workouts and training sessions. but i doubt he will put on enough mass to slow him down unless he eats to grow as well. i think as long as you keep your estro in check, that should help keep blood pressure in check and water weight down. my opinion.

 

[AK47]

no muscle mass needed. I have to drop 10-15lb. I gotta stay fast if my muscles get pumped, than I am screwed, cause it will slow me down.
Thank you guys for replays, I am totally green about that so that's very interesting what you all write-post

 

[Zhayedan]

I'm pretty surprised at most comments in this thread. You say you gotta cut 10-15lbs and doing a cut cycle can certainly help with that. If you run say for example 500mg/week of test plus finish off the cycle with 6 weeks of Var, all while being on a strict diet, then there is no way that you are gonna put on endurance hindering muscle mass. Use an AI to control water retention and you can even run prop ester as your test to further avoid bloating. The cycle can help with maintaining more muscle mass during the cut, as well as helping you feel more energetic and have better recovery; all of which is pretty important when trying to put in hard training sessions while at a caloric deficit.

 

[maxwell0612]

People saying that steroids will slow you down are just absolutly, positively wrong. Did they slow Ben Johnson down? Or lance Armstrong? If you use anabolic and train like a boxer it will only help you. You would probably want something with lower water retention but if you eat correctly that wont matter much except when you weigh in for the fight. It makes no sense that you can run for a distance OK but can't last in the ring. It may be a mental thing but that's a total guess. Steroids are prevalent in boxing as their testing procedures are a joke.

 

[Mr.Anderson]

Anavar seems nice

 

[AK47]

Should I go with anavar?

 

[calebscarbrough]

would this be your first cycle?

 

[RR88]

Maxwell you speak without knowing obviously. Adding muscle mass requires more blood to be pumped by the heart. It is harder on the cardiovascular system. To make a statement comparing running and sparring in the ring as similar you couldn't be more wrong. Do you know slow/fast twitch muscle fibres? Vo2 capacity? Anaerobic/aerobic capacity? Lactic acid thresh hold? The two couldn't be farther from the same. That's absurd. It's very simple. When OP is considering a steroid for his sport of boxing he should consider strength to weight ratio (staying close to current weight while increasing strength) ,increasing RBC in regards to maximizing oxygen transport to muscle cells, collagen synthesis and of course increasing speed of the healing process. So with that said I'd firstly recommend nothing. Second is if you are going to run regardless id do a low dose test with low dose EQ and mid. Dose oxandrolone.

 

[Harnold]

I would go with low test amount and equipoise. eq is known for aggression in race horses and myself as well, plus any gains are usually small but good quality muscle. you can make weight without losing much muscle. just my 2cnts.

 

[maxwell0612]

Maxwell you speak without knowing obviously. Adding muscle mass requires more blood to be pumped by the heart. It is harder on the cardiovascular system. To make a statement comparing running and sparring in the ring as similar you couldn't be more wrong. Do you know slow/fast twitch muscle fibres? Vo2 capacity? Anaerobic/aerobic capacity? Lactic acid thresh hold? The two couldn't be farther from the same. That's absurd. It's very simple. When OP is considering a steroid for his sport of boxing he should consider strength to weight ratio (staying close to current weight while increasing strength) ,increasing RBC in regards to maximizing oxygen transport to muscle cells, collagen synthesis and of course increasing speed of the healing process. So with that said I'd firstly recommend nothing. Second is if you are going to run regardless id do a low dose test with low dose EQ and mid. Dose oxandrolone.

No, I'm not a scientist or a pharmocologist. But I have real life experiences that I will relate. If he trains like a boxer then anabolic will help him. Yes if he puts a whole lot of muscle on in a short period of time it will hinder him but that should not be his goal as a boxer. Just like lance Armstrong trained like a bike rider and it improved his preformence. Your talking about different thing, putting on too much muscle and improving his endurance which should be his goal. Bottom line is he needs to take the right drugs, train and eat the correct way for a boxer and his performance will improve. The one thing I hate about these boards is fuckin theory. All this scientific conjecture is theory, basically. I have read many thing on here and other sites like this that are plain wrong in real life but correct by scientific theory. I'll take real life any day.

 

[maxwell0612]

I would go with low test amount and equipoise. eq is known for aggression in race horses and myself as well, plus any gains are usually small but good quality muscle. you can make weight without losing much muscle. just my 2cnts.

Eq would probably be good but I would try to find someone who has experience with training boxers and experience with anabolics. You need real life experience with this not someone on a message board telling you what scientifically should work.

 

[RR88]

Maxwell what I wrote is not theoretical. It's what it is. I agree with your part about training as a "boxer" but at the end of the day if you take a gram if test and you train as a boxer your puttin on muscle regardless. That will hinder performance. Diet wise an athlete like this will eat a lot if calories due to excess training which allows the opportunity for muscle hyper trophy. I agree with the way a boxer will train won't grant the same muscle growth as lifting weights. Of course not. I do know that a lot if test regardless will add unwanted muscle mass. By the way this isn't an argument. Healthy debate. No ill will. Just for us learning plus I enjoy some banter lol.

 

[AK47]

oh boy. so many opinions. I am totally lost. I was looking over internet and fighters say anavar is the best. I have never taken any roids

 

[RR88]

AK anavar is still suppressive. You must have a base of test. 200 a week would be ample. This is basic knowledge. This is a must or your doing yourself a big disservice.