hhajdo said:
Blood test ? Which Anabolic Androgenic Steroids (AAS) did you use ?
Deca and tren (different times). After stopping both, gyno symptoms stopped. The problem with deca was that it took a loooong time to stop. Luckily the dosages for both were very minimal. Deca was 300mg and the tren was 75mg eod. The deca was a long time ago and then I had one inject of when on cycle to see if the bromo would help with deca.
The last time this happened was tren/test. After my second shot of tren I had symptoms. I hit the bromo, stopped the tren, symptoms went away. Stayed on bromo, added tren, no symptoms. But I hated bromo, had to ramp it up slowly, felt like shit on it, etc., etc. Plus it's expensive and I had to use an overseas pharmacy to get it. Also, I experimented with the dosage of the tren and went to 150mg eod and still no itchy nips while on bromo.
I had some leftover deca as well since the gyno symptoms hit me almost immediately. I took one shot to see if I would notice any symptoms, and nothing. Again, I was still on the bromo.
Soooo, I know that being on test didn't lower prolactin enough to stop any gyno problems with tren or deca. However, the bromo did. Since bromo is a pain in the ass in just about every way, I have shyed away from tren and deca.
And when it first happened on deca, I was taking eq at the same time at 400mg/week. I stopped the deca, tried Winstrol (winny) (because at that time, the Winstrol (winny) will stop progesterone gyno was rampant) at 50mg/day for a week, then 100mg/day for a week, neither one worked worth a shit and my nips were in serious pain.
I was also taking nolva at the time. That didn't help either.
After that cycle, I stuck to gear that aromatized and was able to control the gyno symptoms with anti e's like nolva, arimi, and letro. Btw, I only take anti-e's when I get gyno symptoms, and I always get gyno symptoms.
I have had itchy nips on 250mgtest/600mg/eq, which is one reason why I have never gone with high dosages on my cycles. I have never had any confidence in the anti-es until letro because I would still get a twinge or two now and then, regardless of dosage until I tried letro. Of course the problem with letro is inability to function sexually. Hello cialis and hello drug cascade...I'm taking tren, but that shuts me down pretty hard so I'll add test, but the tren also gives me gyno so I'll need to add bromo, but then the test can give me gyno as well so I'll add in letro, well that makes me limp, so I'll add cialis...
I know I am not typical, but it still happens. I am soooo susceptible to gyno it isn't even funny. I know what works and what doesn't. The fact that bromo stops the itch after a few days when taking tren/deca, and the fact that b6 is touted to be an alternative to bromo means I will try it.
Blood test or not, bromo stopped the gyno. And I hate doctors, so I'm not getting a blood test anytime soon. I now read that B6 can take the place of bromo...I'm going to try tren or deca and see what happens. I see this as no risk since I still have 2 packets of parlodel. But if the b6 works, then I can now do a cycle like everybody else.
Hell, I might try this in the next week or two. If the b6 helps me, do I think it will help everybody? No. But if it helps me, it will help somebody else with similar problems, and the fact that stonecold is using it with success gives me great hope.
Bottom line I know these things: other gear does not suppress prolactin to the point that it will not cause a problem if I am also taking deca or tren (I cannot comment on anadrol). I am HIGHLY susceptible to gyno both estrogenic and otherwise. I have found that letro is far superior to nolva and arimidex for ME when it comes to estrogen suppression. I have found that neither nolva nor Winstrol (winny) do diddly when it comes to helping with gyno from deca/tren. Suppressing estrogen doesn't help my gyno at all when taking deca or tren. Bromo helps gyno problems when it comes to deca/tren. I *hope* b6 does as well as bromo, because if it does, I am getting back on the tren bandwagon and telling everybody I can about B6. And with the study mentioned, it took something like 5 days. So if it works, it works pretty immediately, if it doesn't, it doesn't and I will continue looking. Dostinex is extremely expensive as well and imo not an option. If B6 doesn't work, I will stick to aromatizing gear, Winstrol (winny), and ox.
I guess that's why I think this is such great news and can't understand why everybody wants to dismiss this. Hell, the Winstrol (winny) blocks the PR got more love and there weren't ANY studies or mention of doctors using it like we have for B6. And back then Winstrol (winny) was freaking expensive. We are talking $3 wasted if it doesn't help you, not a buck a tab like with bromo or nolva, and a trip to the grocery store. No sweaty palms waiting for the mail to arrive either.