Tbol Cycle - 2nd Cycle
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Tbol Cycle - 2nd Cycle 03-30-2007 07:05 AM I shagging ur dog....right now uh! uh! uh! Definitely the type of comment I would expect from a high school kid like yourself.
Lucky13
Cycle, test, HGH
Day 8
Was really eager to get in the gym but after hitting a few weights I could tell my joints were feeling really raw, I'm taking all the joint meds I can with cod liver oil, glucosamine, MSM so maybe it has something to do with the Tbol, I've heard steroids such as Anavar (var) can increase collagen in joints (another good reason to stack certain steroids together) and others such as test can decrease collagen in joints...maybe Tbol is one of the latter but in all honesty to early to say..I'll keep monitoring..I lifted pretty light on all my excercises as I don't want to risk an injury this early...even then I felt a few nasty twinges...
After finishing my workout I assumed I would look pretty shit as I didn't feel pumped at all but on a trip to the sauna I caught a look in a mirror and holy crap this is the best I've ever looked, instead of getting pumps and just looking swollen and round I looked all cut up and the definition looked fantastic! Tbol so far is Anavar (var) on steroids
if that makes any sense, you get all the benifits of Anavar (var) i.e the hardening affects, strength, no bloat but without the painfull pumps...and believe me the pumps from Anavar (var) were crippling!
Sex drive is still up, most bad sides have completly disappeared...
Diet has been perfect and I'm a walking lunchbox with all my food in my rucksack if I'm away from home, my girlfriend thinks I'm nuts as each night I line up my midnight protein shake and a small chicken meal by the bed...
Was really eager to get in the gym but after hitting a few weights I could tell my joints were feeling really raw, I'm taking all the joint meds I can with cod liver oil, glucosamine, MSM so maybe it has something to do with the Tbol, I've heard steroids such as Anavar (var) can increase collagen in joints (another good reason to stack certain steroids together) and others such as test can decrease collagen in joints...maybe Tbol is one of the latter but in all honesty to early to say..I'll keep monitoring..I lifted pretty light on all my excercises as I don't want to risk an injury this early...even then I felt a few nasty twinges...
After finishing my workout I assumed I would look pretty shit as I didn't feel pumped at all but on a trip to the sauna I caught a look in a mirror and holy crap this is the best I've ever looked, instead of getting pumps and just looking swollen and round I looked all cut up and the definition looked fantastic! Tbol so far is Anavar (var) on steroids
if that makes any sense, you get all the benifits of Anavar (var) i.e the hardening affects, strength, no bloat but without the painfull pumps...and believe me the pumps from Anavar (var) were crippling!Sex drive is still up, most bad sides have completly disappeared...
Diet has been perfect and I'm a walking lunchbox with all my food in my rucksack if I'm away from home, my girlfriend thinks I'm nuts as each night I line up my midnight protein shake and a small chicken meal by the bed...
Diet has been perfect and I'm a walking lunchbox with all my food in my rucksack if I'm away from home, my girlfriend thinks I'm nuts as each night I line up my midnight protein shake and a small chicken meal by the bed... [/QUOTE]
Sounds like your pretty anal about your diet...Good for you tho...Not me...I eat good, but during this cycle I've lost my huge urge to eat good...I eat good, but ill definetly cheat...especially lately...
[/QUOTE]Sounds like your pretty anal about your diet...Good for you tho...Not me...I eat good, but during this cycle I've lost my huge urge to eat good...I eat good, but ill definetly cheat...especially lately...
Lucky13
Cycle, test, HGH
tbolfist said:Diet has been perfect and I'm a walking lunchbox with all my food in my rucksack if I'm away from home, my girlfriend thinks I'm nuts as each night I line up my midnight protein shake and a small chicken meal by the bed...
Sounds like your pretty anal about your diet...Good for you tho...Not me...I eat good, but during this cycle I've lost my huge urge to eat good...I eat good, but ill definetly cheat...especially lately...[/QUOTE]
Yeah I really want this to be a clean bulk, any fat u gain ur always going to lose muscle when u finally have to cut.....shit there's no perfect solution
tbolfist how have ur joints been feeling ?
simpllyhuge
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lucky next cycle i would use some low dose test. If your using oral fin or dut with your topical i doubt ull loose any hair. And if u do, u can just stop when u notice it.
ManOfMuscle
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Lucky13 said:
We have a breakthrough.
Lucky13 said:
Yeah I really want this to be a clean bulk, any fat u gain ur always going to lose muscle when u finally have to cut.....shit there's no perfect solution
tbolfist how have ur joints been feeling ?[/QUOTE]Lucky, my joints are feeling great...I was doing 360lb squats the other day, and I feel good...All other joints are the same....
Warmachine
Your Girls Pay my Bills
i dont see the need to jump all over lucky. if these cycles help him reach his goals then who cares? I dont like cycles without test because you always risk your sex drive. If i was lucky i would have some test on hand or some proviron with some cialis just in case. believe me it is really shitty feeling to be faced with horny chick wanting to fuck and have your dick just be worthless.
besides all that though orals are strong! i like 20-25mg of win,var, and dbol/day. its plenty to see results. 50mg of win a day gave me crippling pumps. im 11 days into my 20mg winny/day (with test lol) and im already feeling shoulder pain.
with higher doses come greater side effects and though some accept this, you dont need to!
i would also imagine that with a short half-life and low androgenic profile these cycles are super easy to recover from hpta wise, especially with the low doses.
besides all that though orals are strong! i like 20-25mg of win,var, and dbol/day. its plenty to see results. 50mg of win a day gave me crippling pumps. im 11 days into my 20mg winny/day (with test lol) and im already feeling shoulder pain.
with higher doses come greater side effects and though some accept this, you dont need to!
i would also imagine that with a short half-life and low androgenic profile these cycles are super easy to recover from hpta wise, especially with the low doses.
WTF happend to Lucky...NO posts in 2 days...That kid posts like theres no tomorrow...He probably had enough of bein jumped on....
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That statement is garbage.mw101 said:The weight gained from these cycles will be purely water. Good Luck and smarten up
Test produces massive amounts of water weight. Orals such as tbol, anavar and winstrol all produce lean gains with minimal bloat.
In fact, when i've used winstrol in the past, my body dried out massivley leaving me more ripped than I had ever been.
Dbol and anadrol cause water weight, but lumping all orals together is retarded. An anavar only cycle is perfectly reasonable for a newbie or experienced alike. Especially if your sick of the rapid gains, rapid loss, followed by acne and hair loss caused by many other steroids.
So to use your words "smarten up".
I also might add that it would be good if all the guys posting the comments about adding Test into the cycle, read the whole of this thread!
Its been said about 20 times and its pointless and boring. The guy has planned his cycle and knows what he wants from it so let him get on with it and maybe we can all learn something about T-bol.
Also, why does everyone see the need these days to use such huge doses?
Its pretty well documented that the likes of Arnie and Lou Ferigno used only 5mg a day or an oral only cycle!
I myself, and i'm sure a lot of the other more experienced guys on here will attest to, used to cycle with only 25mg of orals such as dbol in the past. I started using gear 7 years ago and back then, anything above 30mg was seen as massive, and I mean massive. In fact, I first heard of a guy doing 45mg a day of dbol about 4 years ago and I was shocked. I know things change but it seems the boundaries these days are being pushed pretty far and fast too.
Its been said about 20 times and its pointless and boring. The guy has planned his cycle and knows what he wants from it so let him get on with it and maybe we can all learn something about T-bol.
Also, why does everyone see the need these days to use such huge doses?
Its pretty well documented that the likes of Arnie and Lou Ferigno used only 5mg a day or an oral only cycle!
I myself, and i'm sure a lot of the other more experienced guys on here will attest to, used to cycle with only 25mg of orals such as dbol in the past. I started using gear 7 years ago and back then, anything above 30mg was seen as massive, and I mean massive. In fact, I first heard of a guy doing 45mg a day of dbol about 4 years ago and I was shocked. I know things change but it seems the boundaries these days are being pushed pretty far and fast too.
outlawtas
New member
Update us lucky.
After reading some profiles about T-bol it's actually looking quite good...I loved var but considering T-bol is a fraction of the price almost anywhere you go it's much better on the wallet. I think I'll swap out my var on the next cycle and give Tbol a try. I'll have the tren in there for strength anyways...
After reading some profiles about T-bol it's actually looking quite good...I loved var but considering T-bol is a fraction of the price almost anywhere you go it's much better on the wallet. I think I'll swap out my var on the next cycle and give Tbol a try. I'll have the tren in there for strength anyways...
Lucky13
Cycle, test, HGH
Sorry guys have had a couple of personal issues, anyway back in the game again and all is full steam ahead
Outlaw I'm fricking love Tbol, i'm sure alot of the sides I have won't be exhibited by others and if people do... it looks like they are only temporary and after a few days you body adjusts...so far Tbol absolutely kicks Vars ass, no painfull pumps and much more definition, the hardness is all there but with a more fuller look...my arms just look huge, there only 16" but the definition and even the muscle belly just looks rounder and full of blood...joints do feel very tender but again this may just be me...
I'll say this for Var though it does feel a million times cleaner, Tbol seems to have a more poisonous feel to it...I'm pretty sure long term use of Tbol would cause me health problems but with Var you could probably use it for years.
Outlaw I'm fricking love Tbol, i'm sure alot of the sides I have won't be exhibited by others and if people do... it looks like they are only temporary and after a few days you body adjusts...so far Tbol absolutely kicks Vars ass, no painfull pumps and much more definition, the hardness is all there but with a more fuller look...my arms just look huge, there only 16" but the definition and even the muscle belly just looks rounder and full of blood...joints do feel very tender but again this may just be me...
I'll say this for Var though it does feel a million times cleaner, Tbol seems to have a more poisonous feel to it...I'm pretty sure long term use of Tbol would cause me health problems but with Var you could probably use it for years.
Lucky13
Cycle, test, HGH
Just got back from the gym after 3days off, despite everything my diet throughout was immaculate so I don't feel I lost anything, joints feel alot better but still tender but I definately feel my body benifited from the rest..
Gym wise I was absolutely loving it, I just had to laugh when I looked in the mirror it looked stupid, hell I know alot of this is just the on cycle pump but hell I'm gonna enjoy it while I can
Lifting felt solid and super strong but I didn't want to push my joints so I didn't raise anything, appetite felt slightly supressed so eating was much more procedure then desire.... until I tasted my new food....
I've just joined Costco a Supermarket just for traders so you have to buy bulk and fugg me there chicken is delicious I've also brought enough chicken to tie me over for a nuclear war! Tons of new sauces too so some juicy chow coming right up! I just love being on cycle it takes something I already love and makes it 10 times more fun!
I really can't wait till my next gym session, everytime I go seems like Christmas
Gym wise I was absolutely loving it, I just had to laugh when I looked in the mirror it looked stupid, hell I know alot of this is just the on cycle pump but hell I'm gonna enjoy it while I can
Lifting felt solid and super strong but I didn't want to push my joints so I didn't raise anything, appetite felt slightly supressed so eating was much more procedure then desire.... until I tasted my new food....
I've just joined Costco a Supermarket just for traders so you have to buy bulk and fugg me there chicken is delicious I've also brought enough chicken to tie me over for a nuclear war! Tons of new sauces too so some juicy chow coming right up! I just love being on cycle it takes something I already love and makes it 10 times more fun!
I really can't wait till my next gym session, everytime I go seems like Christmas
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