Lowering SHBG on a Superdrol clone cycle?
First good Sr.
Original Superdrol.
Not togive links to other forums but you can find good info in this thread about the first Original superdrol.
Let's see what might result:
1-Increased circulating/unbound androgens (test, superdrol, etc). Though to be honest, Superdrol has pretty good binding affinity for SHBG, and many a people have run SD without an SHBG lowering compound and have had great results. So I wonder, what is the added value here? Total test levels on a cycle of properly dosed Supedrol are going to be in the sub-100ng/dl range, so I'm not sure what it matters that more of 50ng/dl of total test is present in the free/circulating state.
You are correct in the fact that Superdrol is already going to lower shbg a lot. And truthfully the hcgenerate is not going to lower it that much more. However out of repetitiveness ( and how it helps other cycles) I placed this attribute on the list.
2-Increased free estrogen. I didn't see this one on the list above. Kind of a gyno concern IMO when running a weakly androgenic and strongly suppressive compound like SD. Any benefit from more circulating SD might well be mitigated by this effect. Androgen/estrogen ratio won't be pretty; Santa might bring you a pair of tits for Christmas (or not; depends on if you've been naughty or nice).
superdrol is non aromatizable all literature to date gives it 0 estrogenic activity and like all dht derivatives some what anti estrogenic even if only slightly less then its injectable counterpart "masteron" . Which its Original conception was for battling estrogen dependent breast cancers. Moreover its estrogen reducing effects are time tested and evident in the feed back of every single user to come in contact with the drug. Albeit not so impressive looking for reducing estrogen in some literature, documented use and feed back supersedes. So although a somewhat impressive attempt your argument lacks real world evident reports to back up your "Theoretical" analysis
3-Decreased SHBG (of course). SHBG seems to have a protective effect against gyno. This doesn't disagree with the fact that SERMs like tamoxifen raise SHBG. Bound estrogen can't make your nipples itch.
slightly or even drastically raising/lowering SHBG during a cycle in which estrogen is already reduced (real world evident feed back as well as literary backing for all dht dirivatives) Is not going to have a profound effect if any effect at all on gyno..
Aromasin is well known to "lower" shbg. Your explanation would be the equivalent of telling some one that Aromasin is going to cause them gyno problems if use during a cycle or post cycle therapy (pct). Although to a lesser degree the same definitive results would apply.
Superdrol also inhibits 11b-hydroxylase, so gyno risk up.
HCGenerate has testofen in it too, right? Last time I ran a testofen product, my libido was sky high, and about 5 weeks later, my nipple started to itch and burn. I still have issues today, almost a year later, and I've read of others having similar issues (not necessarily the norm), but again, I would be cautious in stacking too many potential gyno contributors in a stack/cycle such as this.
So what you are trying to say is that primordialperformance.com product Phyto-Testosterone product which is basically high dosed testofen in nothing more then pure speed bags for tits in a pretty bottle??? The company you work for makes the statement in there product write up that there product
"Is a completely legal, natural and scientifically proven complex that supports lean muscle growth, rather than breast growth. testofen is truly man's best friend."
and even go on to say it stakes great with Dermacrine a "much more anabolic then anadrolic" compound/supplement..
But??? But how can this be?? Well what ever lets scroll down the the part where they write Testofen™ mimics the effects of testosterone " at the androgen receptor" much like sarms. All done with and I quote "with out the detrimental side effects typically related to the use of anabolic steroids. Such as GYNO!!!"
But lets move into the next statements you have made and address them together now.
I would want to do everything possible to lower my gyno risk, like combining Superdrol/beastdrol/whateverdrol with a stronger androgen such as DHT or a precursor (some are still legal, take your pick), Testosterone, etc.
Will address the testofen and the "stack it with a dht derivative" mistakes once again, and together here.
Both beastdrol and katanadrol are dht derived "steroids" . Again I commend your counterpart for His product placement and now you for you're subtle attempt yet obvious product placement back up.
Its still wrong because why are you going to tell some one to use a dht pro hormone as a additive to the cycle for any reason what so ever? Both steroids in question have much stronger dht action.
Now with almost all oral cycles the one thing most people want to try and do is add "testosterone" like effects to the cycle some how. Much like how all over every forum across the net you see people saying "test base! Test base! Cycle should always have a test base!" one would want to try and create this with a oral cycle for many reasons. I think this is more where you would be wanting to go with what you were saying but maybe just getting a little confused. Considering again that both steroids in question are dht's..
Now as we can see hcgenerate "product as a whole" is going to raise testosterone,raise free test,act a mimic testosterone at the androgen receptor, as well as raise sex hormone receptors and sex drive like testosterone would during a cycle.
OP, I would suggest running whatever OTC stuff you want for your post cycle therapy (pct) (actually, I wouldn't take any of that recommended OTC post cycle therapy (pct) crap above, but that's just me). Just don't forget some toremifene or clomid
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Good luck with your cycle.
