ECA and lower back blowing up....

eatme

i love eating...
this is my second day of an ec(no aspirin) stack... imat 100mgs ephedrine hcl, and 800 mg's caffeine,...(25/200 split 4x throughout the day)
since yesterday, my lower back has been in constant pain...its more uncomfortable than anythign else though...is this related to the EC??..has anyone ever heard of this or experienced this?..please help, let me know what i can do/take to get this damn pain away in my lower back!!

edit, sidenote..(yesterday, i took 3, 325mg aspirin to try and relieve the pain,....didnt help)
 
sorry, also, i forgot to add in,..i am not lifting at all right now,..so it is not activity induced pain....i am doing an hour of cardio (either jogging or biking) everyday, but have not done it in the past two days...so again, not activity induced......
thanks, please help!
 
oh and, "You need to learn how to eat and do cardio........It's that simple.

With those stats, I wouldn't be surprised if you suffer a heart attack with what you're doing.

I'd stop all drugs immediately if I was you."

was the advice given to you by StoneCold, cus your stats said you are 40+ bf%, and now you have ignored all the advice given to you and are having problems. Bro, if you dont wanna listen to advice given to you and be stupid enough to damage your body, its your own fault, You obviously do not have the will power to change your body on your own, and lack the confidence on yourself, popping pills 3x times a day will not give you courage nor strength.
 
uh, ha, ok hammer, who the fuck are you?...youre god damn right, whatever i want to do is what I want to do....no one else needs to be worried about it..last time i checked, this site was for guidance, help, answers to questions..when i post a fuckin question, i would like it answered, not critiqued to the point that its completely off subject....my question, does anyone know of back aches w/ eca....not, "hey can someone give me shit unrelated to the question"....
will power to change my body on my own?...youre a fucking moron....there isnt ONE fucking pill in the world that will make you lose weight WITHOUT changing diet/cardio...so youre also wrong about that one....
lack of confidence,...wrong again..i AM confident about myself...going from just lifting weights, to cardio an HOUR everyday,...."improvement', to say the least...
this is stupid and pointless.....answer my damn questions, period...if you cant, or dont want to, then dont...but stop hijacking the fucking threads i post to tell me shit over and over....people will do what they want, that doesnt mean dont answer questions, or answer them and then give a lecture.....
 
furthermore, the 'advice' by people who are 'knowledgeable' of diet/excercise is fine,..ill take all i can get....but jumping down someone's throat b/c of an eca stack is just stupid....troll
i appreciate the obvious concern (or too much time on your hands) about me,....but again, answer questions...bottom line...i honestly dont care how you feel,...i just wanted answers...feel free to write all you want next time i post a thread that says "please tell me how you personally feel, but whatever you do, dont answer my question and leave it at that"
 
i answered your question first my friend...maybe its the water...are you D-R-I-N-K-I-N-G enough of it? then i just reminded you that it might be best for you not to take the ECA, or clen, or t3, or ephedra, or dnp...

but you dont wanna listen, and you probably never will... you want answers when you cant handle the truth (not to paraphrase from a movie)....

and your're right, i dont care about you, but i would never want someone to fuck themselves up cuz they are desperate/impatient/ignorant/or misguided (not implying that you are), your body if i remeber your stats correctly, cant handle that shock of all that caff/eph and you'll probably become another teenage statistic...
 
of course, you dont know me..but,...
i am one of the most safest people i know....even during my two previous cycles, i stayed safe,...during diet/excercise, im safe..
this is not the first eca stack ive had...only the first time, that, obviously, i havent drank enough...which, youre probably right, ...its about a gallon a day, but due to time/stress, im not able to get a whole gallon down......
anyway, i wont be another teenage statistic.....but again, i like how you say that i dont have the motivation, and yet, youre telling me im gonna die.....nice
 
eatme said:
but again, i like how you say that i dont have the motivation, and yet, youre telling me im gonna die.....nice

yeah im a dick like that...lol...dude i didnt mean to jump down your throat, sorry if it came off that way....so...in conclusion...drink more water...if propblem persists, contact vet/mod or discontinue your eca if nothing works...

maybe also consider takin your dosage 3x a day instead of 4x... if you space it out 1 dose every 4 hours over 12 hours, that might help too...
 
man, thanks...im having a horrible day....so anything other than "youre hot" is gonna piss me off..ha...(which would explain why im still mad..)ha,stupid..
anyway, yeah, im up at 7.30 everyday (damn summer classes), so ive been taking it at like 8,10:30,12:30,2:30, and then 4:30, b/c when i used to take it anywhere after like 5-6ish, id be up all damn night (insomnia, worst damn s.a. of eca)
anyway, thanks for the info,...honestly, i drank about 1/2 a gallon of water in the past hour, and, haha, seriously,...the pain has subsided...that quick....so you were right on the money, anyway, thanks man....
 
lol.. that was great hey eat me I get the same problem cramps but it is usually when I'm not drinking enough water, also your taking to much of the stack cut it down to 3x a day the most. Your not supposed to exceed 60mg a day of ephedrine. The most I take is 2x a day but thats me. anymore than that I feel like I'm gonna die from a heartattack and I have asthma.
 
i have asthma too....but its not that bad, usually never need an inhaler/nebulizer, unless its a very rare case..(which is like, once every 2 years..ha)
i am comfortable w/ 100mgs, ...have done 160 in a day, but im sticking to 100mgs of ephedrine hcl....
i know that eca lasts for only about 4 hours,...so, taking it 4x within like 8 hours is kinda stupid,....i was thinking,...
---should i continue to split it 20/200 (E/C) every two or so hours, or just take like 2 or 3 bigger doses and split it longer throughoutthe day?
either
A. 20/200 every 2.5 hours 4-5x
B.40/400 every like 4 hours 2x, and one smaller dose in the evening
sorry to keep this thread going, but after seeing your post, i figured i'd ask about this cycling..ive never done it like this though, only one tab every other hour....but this might work,...any comments?
 
oh, also....im damn glad that hammer responded when he did, cuz man, i drank a shitload of water, and havent felt better.....lower back feels great...it went from feeling like i had horrible form on a 500lb. squat, to feeling like i just woke up next to the most beautiful girl in the world....my girlfriend!....oh, wait, who am i kidding,..she wont be reading this........
edit-..like i woke up next to fuckin' teen kelly (my personal favorite)
<--ASSHOLE!
 
well my man that sounds crazy I hope you live thru the week. How do you sleep I dont know about you but I can only take it no later than 5pm. Well anyways I would take it every 4 hours plan b
 
Quick ? why do you take so much of it? how long have you been on it? It kinda sounds like your body has built a resistance to it maybe thats why you take alot to get that rush? If thats the case your only hurting youself stay off it for a month.
 
hey guys, ..sorry i didnt see your posts till just now...
i have only been on it 2 days now, my body doesnt have a tolerance to it as i have not used ephedra in over a year....i will only stay on this for 25-30 days, depending on the tolerance,...im gonna take abreak from it for 2-3 weeks, and then go back on again.
bast- i had that concern too, seeing as how i neverfelt the pain and havent done an eca stack in over a year.....but, seeing as how i knew i wasnt getting enough water, and i drank water and it went away,..im thinking that was the problem....im going to drink a lot of water tomorrow (about a gallon, usually) and see if the problem persists, if it does..im going to stop it altogether and get a physical
ill post later on and let everyone know of any sides i may have
 
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