OldSchoolLifter
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This is strictly a research protocol, and should only be used in a research setting.
I decided to go a bit crazy with peptides, I got a great deal on MGF/DES/LR3 for my research test subjects.
So I got to thinking and asking questions, and this is the plan I have come up with. Many Thanks to Victorz06 - Pieguy - and Mike Arnold for their input on the following protocol.
Keep in mind Im used to just taking GH/ed at 6iu, and slin pre and post workout. so this is going to be a bit different. Im excited to experiment.
I read that using IGF /Slin and GH more than 3 times per week can cause cell over-saturation and closure. But with the the added MGF I increase the time it takes for sensitivity to increase to around 8 weeks, then a 3 week break is recommended.
The Protocol.
The protocol is as follows; inject all products post workout, With the exception of a DES shot Pre Workout, preferably after training large muscle groups which cause the most glycogen depletion, hence providing faster uptake of peptides. A sample layout is to inject Monday, Wednesday, and Friday.The reason for the high dose growth hormone is to take what would normally be your one week intake of gh and spread it out into 3 equal doses, injected pwo. This will create a truly anabolic rich environment and you will also benefit from full uptake due to your pwo depleted state. In my case I am on 6iu ed so 42/3 = 14iu
Monday ( workout )
Pre Workout
5-10min Pre Workout Inject DES 120mcg Split Bi lat ( 60mcg IM)
Post Workout :
Immediately after workout Pin MGF 150mcg Split bi Lat ( 75mcg)
10-15 min Later inject 14iu HGH IM into one muscle group.
30 min after HGH injection Dose 50mcg LR3 Sub Q
10min Later 5-10iu Humalog ( I will start with 5iu and work to 10iu because the IGF will make me Hypersensitive to the insulin. )
Tuesday -
Pin 100mcg LR3 Sub Q
Wednesday ( workout )
Pre Workout
5-10min Pre Workout Inject DES 120mcg Split Bi lat ( 60mcg IM)
Post Workout
Immediately after workout Pin MGF 150mcg Split bi Lat ( 75mcg)
10-15 min Later inject 14iu HGH IM into one muscle group.
30 min after HGH injection Dose 50mcg LR3 Sub Q
10min Later 5-10iu Humalog ( I will start with 5iu and work to 10iu because the IGF will make me Hypersensitive to the insulin. )
Thursday -
100mcg LR3 Sub Q
Friday ( workout )
Pre Workout
5-10min Pre Workout Inject DES 120mcg Split Bi lat ( 60mcg IM)
Post Workout
Immediately after workout Pin MGF 150mcg Split bi Lat ( 75mcg)
10-15 min Later inject 14iu HGH IM into one muscle group.
30 min after HGH injection Dose 50mcg LR3 Sub Q
10min Later 5-10iu Humalog ( I will start with 5iu and work to 10iu because the IGF will make me Hypersensitive to the insulin. )
Being that MGF is used 3x per week, and LR3 is used 5 days a week off Sat and sun, I think I can minimize desensitization.
I will provide labs after a month of running this protocol, but I will not have baseline levels from before, Im still on the fence on posting pictures, but maybe soon I will unveil. but for now I can promise you blood work in mid January
I will be using The following for AAS
Test Enanthate 750mg W/K
Nandrolone 500mg/wk
30mg dbol ED
All for around 14 weeks.
AI, and so on are in place, I went with longer esters because I will be already pinning so much with the peps, I decided to cut some pins down with long esters. This is subject to change depending on how I feel though!
One I get PEG MGF I may differ from the off days being LR3 to the OFF days being Peg MGF, but for now this is the above.
I full expect my labs to show, IGF levels past 500, and gh sky high.
I will be testing, Human Growth Hormone, Acromegaly Screen (Basic) & Hormone Panel for Females ( to save a buck )
I will be starting this Monday of Next week December 12th, and will continue for 8 weeks, Blood will be drawn January mid-end, I will keep this thread Updated.
Current stats, 5'8 226 around 11%
Diet Pre and Post
Good question sorry I left that out.
I create my own carb concoction.
Pre Workout
2 Scoop Whey Isolate - 40g Protein
20g Dextrose
Banna, Blended, drink pre workout.
Post workout.
3 Scoops whey Isolate in water ( 60g Protien )
40g Dextrose
Banana, Blended.
1 hour later,
Chicken and Pasta, with Vegetables, along side a Gatorade ( 20g Dextrose )
Around 50-60g Protein, and 100g Simple and complex carbs.
Input if any is appreciated, But just wanted to share.
You can Download the complete Guide and protocol, among Diet, and Reconstituting options Here mediafire.com/?mvrhgdrgfc4rnmo Just copy the URL and paste in your browser, and a download will begin
It is in excel format
I decided to go a bit crazy with peptides, I got a great deal on MGF/DES/LR3 for my research test subjects.
So I got to thinking and asking questions, and this is the plan I have come up with. Many Thanks to Victorz06 - Pieguy - and Mike Arnold for their input on the following protocol.
Keep in mind Im used to just taking GH/ed at 6iu, and slin pre and post workout. so this is going to be a bit different. Im excited to experiment.
I read that using IGF /Slin and GH more than 3 times per week can cause cell over-saturation and closure. But with the the added MGF I increase the time it takes for sensitivity to increase to around 8 weeks, then a 3 week break is recommended.
The Protocol.
The protocol is as follows; inject all products post workout, With the exception of a DES shot Pre Workout, preferably after training large muscle groups which cause the most glycogen depletion, hence providing faster uptake of peptides. A sample layout is to inject Monday, Wednesday, and Friday.The reason for the high dose growth hormone is to take what would normally be your one week intake of gh and spread it out into 3 equal doses, injected pwo. This will create a truly anabolic rich environment and you will also benefit from full uptake due to your pwo depleted state. In my case I am on 6iu ed so 42/3 = 14iu
Monday ( workout )
Pre Workout
5-10min Pre Workout Inject DES 120mcg Split Bi lat ( 60mcg IM)
Post Workout :
Immediately after workout Pin MGF 150mcg Split bi Lat ( 75mcg)
10-15 min Later inject 14iu HGH IM into one muscle group.
30 min after HGH injection Dose 50mcg LR3 Sub Q
10min Later 5-10iu Humalog ( I will start with 5iu and work to 10iu because the IGF will make me Hypersensitive to the insulin. )
Tuesday -
Pin 100mcg LR3 Sub Q
Wednesday ( workout )
Pre Workout
5-10min Pre Workout Inject DES 120mcg Split Bi lat ( 60mcg IM)
Post Workout
Immediately after workout Pin MGF 150mcg Split bi Lat ( 75mcg)
10-15 min Later inject 14iu HGH IM into one muscle group.
30 min after HGH injection Dose 50mcg LR3 Sub Q
10min Later 5-10iu Humalog ( I will start with 5iu and work to 10iu because the IGF will make me Hypersensitive to the insulin. )
Thursday -
100mcg LR3 Sub Q
Friday ( workout )
Pre Workout
5-10min Pre Workout Inject DES 120mcg Split Bi lat ( 60mcg IM)
Post Workout
Immediately after workout Pin MGF 150mcg Split bi Lat ( 75mcg)
10-15 min Later inject 14iu HGH IM into one muscle group.
30 min after HGH injection Dose 50mcg LR3 Sub Q
10min Later 5-10iu Humalog ( I will start with 5iu and work to 10iu because the IGF will make me Hypersensitive to the insulin. )
Being that MGF is used 3x per week, and LR3 is used 5 days a week off Sat and sun, I think I can minimize desensitization.
I will provide labs after a month of running this protocol, but I will not have baseline levels from before, Im still on the fence on posting pictures, but maybe soon I will unveil. but for now I can promise you blood work in mid January
I will be using The following for AAS
Test Enanthate 750mg W/K
Nandrolone 500mg/wk
30mg dbol ED
All for around 14 weeks.
AI, and so on are in place, I went with longer esters because I will be already pinning so much with the peps, I decided to cut some pins down with long esters. This is subject to change depending on how I feel though!
One I get PEG MGF I may differ from the off days being LR3 to the OFF days being Peg MGF, but for now this is the above.
I full expect my labs to show, IGF levels past 500, and gh sky high.
I will be testing, Human Growth Hormone, Acromegaly Screen (Basic) & Hormone Panel for Females ( to save a buck )
I will be starting this Monday of Next week December 12th, and will continue for 8 weeks, Blood will be drawn January mid-end, I will keep this thread Updated.
Current stats, 5'8 226 around 11%
Diet Pre and Post
Good question sorry I left that out.
I create my own carb concoction.
Pre Workout
2 Scoop Whey Isolate - 40g Protein
20g Dextrose
Banna, Blended, drink pre workout.
Post workout.
3 Scoops whey Isolate in water ( 60g Protien )
40g Dextrose
Banana, Blended.
1 hour later,
Chicken and Pasta, with Vegetables, along side a Gatorade ( 20g Dextrose )
Around 50-60g Protein, and 100g Simple and complex carbs.
Input if any is appreciated, But just wanted to share.
You can Download the complete Guide and protocol, among Diet, and Reconstituting options Here mediafire.com/?mvrhgdrgfc4rnmo Just copy the URL and paste in your browser, and a download will begin
It is in excel format
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