so far so good

[foamy27]

ok ok i know i went a little overboard with the posing but honostly i feel great im sitting at 191 lbs and about 11 weeks in. ive never been this big and am just proud so if you think im vein or cocky your prob right.

stats:

bf 10% possibly a little less
bi's 17
forearm 12.5
thighs 24.5
calv's 14.5
waist 35
chest 42

wheels are small cuz i screwed up some tendons in my knee's in the military so i take it easy with them. i recently found some excersizes that dont hurt so hopefully i'll be gettin some size on em now.

im having prob with my chest not growing the way i want I seem to lack definition but hey its work in progress.

what did you weigh before you started your cycle?

 

[Juicer2222]

lol thats awasome man! your moivating me even more. lol I just fel like my weels will never be massive cuz of my knee problems but i think i might start looking into wraps and see if those help. do you use wraps?

No i dont wear knee wraps. Im gonna start soon as I start repping over 405. thats getting heavy.

When I first started squatting my knees actually hurt when i squatted anything over 185. I just took it slow and kept doing it and made sure my form was perfect and eventually my knees got stronger or something cause they stopped hurting.

 

[snigg]

If your 6'1'', then your doin alright.. keep it up.
What i did is called around and got a DEXA scan(local clinic/colleges/hostiptols/dr's offices) I payed $120. Water tank is some bullshit bro, trust me. Anyways, the above is the most acurate. Then u can cross reference w your handhelds from now on and be within 1-3%.

do you care to elaborate on that statement?

 

[leanbody]

hey bro;
first off - the tat's aren't bad and when you get some size on your pecs they will look great - it's all personal taste - so don't listen to what assholes say. After all I'm sure it's the ladies you are trying to impress and they'll be all over you!

At 6'1" i think you have great structure and are fairly lean. you definitely could pack on more mass and i think you got some great advice about the PWO shake. i go simpler and do 2 scoops of protein and 2 scoops of waixy maize, with a scoop of glutamine powder and a scoop of BCAA's. IMO you should have a shake in the am with your oatmeal and a casein shake at bedtime too. Check out Fitday.com and log your food for a few days so you can see what your caloric intake is like and where your macros are at. Don't worry about the BF % from the tests, just use the mirror - you'll be able to see where you are at and if you want to lean out.

I'd say you are in a great place and primed to make some serious gains. For the knees - i have similar problems - check out ace tek braces - they are tubes of elastic material that provides support for the joint. Also if the squats don't feel good - go for the 45 degree leg press and try to get a max range of motion. My knees are fukked and i have made some pretty good progress in the last year. Wraps help too for the last set or two but i find that i have to unwrap between sets because it cuts off circulation.

last thought - make sure you use an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) on cycle even if you think you are doing okay - it will keep estrogen in check. BTW - U have a post cycle therapy (pct) planned out?

Great work man!

 

[LANDSCAPE1]

do you care to elaborate on that statement?

I went and watched this dunk procedure... You strip down into your trunks, and get into a big ass tank, and have to punge down for moments at a time(and stay relatively still).. The guy kept floating up to the surface. On top of that the said it not accurate/its like checking your oil in your car while somebodys jumping up and down on the bumber.


DEXA- Takes a crazy strong x-ray/scan-picture of bone mass etc and is accurate as it gets. Easy as pie.. Ive also heard u can get it done for $70-100. People are surprised when they have this done, on the results, cause its doesnt lie.
Then you'll have a real idea on how lean u really are, and can cross refrence(within reason) with a pair of ten dollar pair of calipers/mirror.

Dunking is better than nothing, but the Dexa was worth the money to me.

 

[Juicer2222]

i dont see the need to spend $100 to find out exactly what ur body composition is. I mean if u want to for fun, and u got the money burning a whole in ur pocket, but all u would ever need to know is within a couple percents. even when u do a bodybuilding show, it only matters what u look like, they dont actually measure. all u would ever need is a general idea, so when describing urself or something u can say a percentage of BF. plus it can change fairly quickly depending on ur diet, so y spend all that money, and a couple weeks later its different. I would think mirror and calipers is all u would need.

 

[LightBearer631]

in the 3rd pic is that mild gyno ?

 

[beatngyou27]

what did you weigh before you started your cycle?

stats before cycle:
weight 174.0
bi's 15
forearm 11.5
thighs 21.5
calv 14
waist 35

recent stats:
weight 193.4
bi's 17
forearm 13
thighs 24
calv 14.5
waist 35

I have noticed that work as been putting a huge damper on my cycle I drive a cab from thurs morn till sunday morn with as little as 3-4 hours of sleep a night and the sleep depravation is screwing up my diet. if i had a reg 9 - 5 i would be in massive size. so pretty much from thurs til sunday im out of it.

No i dont wear knee wraps. Im gonna start soon as I start repping over 405. thats getting heavy.

When I first started squatting my knees actually hurt when i squatted anything over 185. I just took it slow and kept doing it and made sure my form was perfect and eventually my knees got stronger or something cause they stopped hurting.

I was afraid I would make them worse but hearing that you worked through it motivates me bro. thank you

hey bro;
first off - the tat's aren't bad and when you get some size on your pecs they will look great - it's all personal taste - so don't listen to what assholes say. After all I'm sure it's the ladies you are trying to impress and they'll be all over you!

At 6'1" i think you have great structure and are fairly lean. you definitely could pack on more mass and i think you got some great advice about the PWO shake. i go simpler and do 2 scoops of protein and 2 scoops of waixy maize, with a scoop of glutamine powder and a scoop of BCAA's. IMO you should have a shake in the am with your oatmeal and a casein shake at bedtime too. Check out Fitday.com and log your food for a few days so you can see what your caloric intake is like and where your macros are at. Don't worry about the BF % from the tests, just use the mirror - you'll be able to see where you are at and if you want to lean out.

I'd say you are in a great place and primed to make some serious gains. For the knees - i have similar problems - check out ace tek braces - they are tubes of elastic material that provides support for the joint. Also if the squats don't feel good - go for the 45 degree leg press and try to get a max range of motion. My knees are fukked and i have made some pretty good progress in the last year. Wraps help too for the last set or two but i find that i have to unwrap between sets because it cuts off circulation.

last thought - make sure you use an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) on cycle even if you think you are doing okay - it will keep estrogen in check. BTW - U have a post cycle therapy (pct) planned out?

Great work man!

post cycle therapy (pct)
week 16-20 Nolva 40,40,20,20.
week 16-20 Clomi 200mg QW.

and im takin some stane during cycle but i found i started getting some gyno so letro took over and zapped it quick but i have been noticing alot of sides coming through when on the stane/ aromasin.

I'll check into the wraps bro i have been doing 185lbs on front squat's and that tends to get to my knee's but i can do 600lbs on the sitting leg hack's without any pain

 

[beatngyou27]

in the 3rd pic is that mild gyno ?

yea my right nip tends to not be as bad but my right is slight and wont go away for about a year. I wasnt doing proper post cycle therapy (pct) and Aromatase inhibitor (AI) in the past so i paid the price. but I dont know if anyone is the same but i tend to hold some water there and it goes away after a few months. I can tell its not gyno on my right cuz i have it in my left so i know the difference.

 

[leanbody]

buddy - that's tough - the cabbie job and sleep deprivation. If you can take all your meals with you when you work. I'm really impressed with your before an after stats - awesome growth dude - and you're just starting...
props.

BTW - Another food i found that's great is 0% greek yogurt with splenda, vanilla and blueberries added. for some reason the greek type is way high in protein. Could easily eat that while driving.

 

[beatngyou27]

buddy - that's tough - the cabbie job and sleep deprivation. If you can take all your meals with you when you work. I'm really impressed with your before an after stats - awesome growth dude - and you're just starting...
props.

BTW - Another food i found that's great is 0% greek yogurt with splenda, vanilla and blueberries added. for some reason the greek type is way high in protein. Could easily eat that while driving.

im actually sensitive to lactose so it makes it hard to eat dairy. but that does sound damn good. I might have to try that with some sort of lactose free yogurt. I need to come up with a bunch of meals on the go. I ususally take three chicken breast's with sides with me but trying to balance a a bunch of breaks to eat and the million stops i take to piss lol gets hard on the making money. I actaully graduated school so once i pass my state boards I'll be gtg.

 

[leanbody]

im actually sensitive to lactose so it makes it hard to eat dairy. but that does sound damn good. I might have to try that with some sort of lactose free yogurt. I need to come up with a bunch of meals on the go. I ususally take three chicken breast's with sides with me but trying to balance a a bunch of breaks to eat and the million stops i take to piss lol gets hard on the making money. I actaully graduated school so once i pass my state boards I'll be gtg.

The lactose thing makes it tougher for sure- you ever try those lactaid pills? My daughter wasmlac intolerant and out grew it. Me too. So you might test it out every 3-5 years to see where u are at.
Is casein included? If not, you can make a sort of "pudding" with 2 scoops and less water. Helps withnthe peeing thing too. What state boards are you going for?

 

[beatngyou27]

The lactose thing makes it tougher for sure- you ever try those lactaid pills? My daughter wasmlac intolerant and out grew it. Me too. So you might test it out every 3-5 years to see where u are at.
Is casein included? If not, you can make a sort of "pudding" with 2 scoops and less water. Helps withnthe peeing thing too. What state boards are you going for?

Respiratory Therapy. and i never thought about doing that. i use muscle milk so bet that would taste damn good with a little soy milk and some fruit. maybe even try with some ice in a blender. I also picked up some protein bars as snacks. I'll look into those pills to sounds like something worth tryin cuz i love ice cream and yogurts

Imma try eating my first meal like oatmeal and protein or 8 egg whites and 3 eggs with 1 slice of toast and 2 slices of turkey bacon.

second meal 2 hours later will be 8oz chicken breast with veggies.

Third meal 2 hours later will be either a protein bar or another 8oz chicken with beans or another veggie.

Fourth meal 2 hours later will be either a protein bar unless the previous meal was a bar or another 8oz chicken with beans or another veggie.

then its usually gyme time so i do 500mg niacin with one scoop of jack3d and 2 scoops of BCAA's

right after the gym before i even leave i down a protein shake with 3-6g of creatine

Fifth meal is usually dinner and what ever the little lady makes or left overs.

I prob should be doing a sixth meal as a casein shake but im tight on cash.

how does this look to you?

 

[leanbody]

Respiratory Therapy. and i never thought about doing that. i use muscle milk so bet that would taste damn good with a little soy milk and some fruit. maybe even try with some ice in a blender. I also picked up some protein bars as snacks. I'll look into those pills to sounds like something worth tryin cuz i love ice cream and yogurts

Imma try eating my first meal like oatmeal and protein or 8 egg whites and 3 eggs with 1 slice of toast and 2 slices of turkey bacon.

second meal 2 hours later will be 8oz chicken breast with veggies.

Third meal 2 hours later will be either a protein bar or another 8oz chicken with beans or another veggie.

Fourth meal 2 hours later will be either a protein bar unless the previous meal was a bar or another 8oz chicken with beans or another veggie.

then its usually gyme time so i do 500mg niacin with one scoop of jack3d and 2 scoops of BCAA's

right after the gym before i even leave i down a protein shake with 3-6g of creatine

Fifth meal is usually dinner and what ever the little lady makes or left overs.

I prob should be doing a sixth meal as a casein shake but im tight on cash.

how does this look to you?

looks pretty good - I'd make a few changes - 1. you might want to try the powdered or pasteurized egg whites - I always find i get more that way. oatmeal is great! 2. I'm a skeptic about the protein bars - most are almost as bad as snickers for high carbs and fat along with the 20 gms of protein. if you can make your own - there are lots of recipes on the forums. Also lots of the protein bars have malitol in them which makes me fart like an elephant - maybe not a problem for you, but I'd never get a tip if i ate those and was a taxi driver! I'd substitute a shake if you cant get real food. 3. post workout get a scoop or two of waxie maize in with your protein shake. or a cup of white rice. you need a fast digesting carb immediately after working out - the protein is good but it takes too long to digest and you are your most catabolic post workout. 4. get some protein before bed even if it isn't casein - 8 hours is a long fast cause your muscles grow at night too.5. I'd split the 2 scoops of bcaa's before and after the gym.

those are my suggestions, although you have clearly had success with what you've been doing so far.

 

[beatngyou27]

looks pretty good - I'd make a few changes - 1. you might want to try the powdered or pasteurized egg whites - I always find i get more that way. oatmeal is great! 2. I'm a skeptic about the protein bars - most are almost as bad as snickers for high carbs and fat along with the 20 gms of protein. if you can make your own - there are lots of recipes on the forums. Also lots of the protein bars have malitol in them which makes me fart like an elephant - maybe not a problem for you, but I'd never get a tip if i ate those and was a taxi driver! I'd substitute a shake if you cant get real food. 3. post workout get a scoop or two of waxie maize in with your protein shake. or a cup of white rice. you need a fast digesting carb immediately after working out - the protein is good but it takes too long to digest and you are your most catabolic post workout. 4. get some protein before bed even if it isn't casein - 8 hours is a long fast cause your muscles grow at night too.5. I'd split the 2 scoops of bcaa's before and after the gym.

those are my suggestions, although you have clearly had success with what you've been doing so far.

that sounds good man I'll try it out. this might beneifit me more. what would you recomend before bed if not casein? my last meal i usually try and eat a lean red meat of some sort whether its steak or ground beef. is that good enough?

 

[leanbody]

that sounds good man I'll try it out. this might beneifit me more. what would you recomend before bed if not casein? my last meal i usually try and eat a lean red meat of some sort whether its steak or ground beef. is that good enough?

The lean meat sounds good - just avoid carbs with it late at night. so no bun on your hamburger! ;-)