20 inch naturals?

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HowardRearden

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I have not seen any stats on the "natural guys". I was wondering, do any of you know if those guys possess 20+ inch guns? Do you think it's possible to achieve 20 inch competition arms without some juice? I realize arm size in relative in porpotion to overall body size and some folks can achieve this more easily due to genetics; but generally speaking, how likely is it that an average joe could hit the 20 mark without some chemical stimulation?

Just want to hear your take on it.
 
This dude at my gym that is in a wheelchair would have 20's if I were to measure. His arms are huge! I would be surprised if he wasn't natural.

My favorite "natural" BB Skip La Cour has 20's.

IMO 20's for a natty lifter with great genetics can happen. A lot of the roided monsters at the pro level have 21, 22+ inch guns. Those few inches make a big difference!
 
Roided pros usually are beyond 21/22 unless they are really short. Levrone 24" @ 5'9", Kovacs 25"+ at a claimed 6'2" etc
 
I dont think 20" is very big. Mine are 19.8 cold, and I took 11 amps total 2 years ago. Im 5'10, 204 lbs, 22yrs old, with 6 abs now.

I dont look good enough to compete yet, but the juice really didnt do much for me, since I only took a very small ammount.


I will never take lots of juice, too much is bad. Im only going to use orals alone for now on. Prolly twice a year for 4 weeks for some fun, and keep the muscle comming a bit faster then normal.

I dont want to be 300lbs juiced to hell....It just aint me, and thats ok. I dont want to be the most massive I can be, because that means too many drugs, and too many health probs.
 
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I'm 5'10 and I will be happy when I reach 20 inches. I would love to have guns like Dexter Jaxon, but 20 will do if thats all I ever get.
 
Golden_Muscle said:
I dont think 20" is very big. Mine are 19.8 cold, and I took 11 amps total 2 years ago. Im 5'10, 204 lbs, 22yrs old, with 6 abs now.

I dont look good enough to compete yet, but the juice really didnt do much for me, since I only took a very small ammount.


I will never take lots of juice, too much is bad. Im only going to use orals alone for now on. Prolly twice a year for 4 weeks for some fun, and keep the muscle comming a bit faster then normal.

I dont want to be 300lbs juiced to hell....It just aint me, and thats ok. I dont want to be the most massive I can be, because that means too many drugs, and too many health probs.


lololololol gm where do you get all this exciting data youy post? i know several 300lbs who are clean. i also know 220lbs juied to the gills. with no harmful sides. you killin me bro:D :D

you did one cycle years ago and you an expert? now you saying orals are healthier than IM? lololololol cmon bro get with the program.
 
Golden_Muscle said:
I dont think 20" is very big. Mine are 19.8 cold, and I took 11 amps total 2 years ago. Im 5'10, 204 lbs, 22yrs old, with 6 abs now.

Sounds like you are all arms with that kind of weight at 5'10".
 
Skip Lacour is not natural..for one ...As for Kovacs arm yeah an.easy 25 "....maybe more at 350 plus pounds.....
 
pullinbig said:
lololololol gm where do you get all this exciting data youy post? i know several 300lbs who are clean. i also know 220lbs juied to the gills. with no harmful sides. you killin me bro:D :D

you did one cycle years ago and you an expert? now you saying orals are healthier than IM? lololololol cmon bro get with the program.

good point, how can he be an expert doing it only once and with that minimal amount.
 
I think just about anything is possible with the right genetics. However, I will say that 20" guns are HUGE and you will not find very many recreational bodybuilders with arms that size. Some people have arms that look huge but if you actually put a tape measure around them they are not 20".
 
Ok, sorry guys. I just answered the guys question. Im natural with 20" arms, and thats that.

pullinbig, I dont have the genetics to naturally be 300lbs naturally, and im saying I will not take the drugs to get there. Didnt say I was an expert, just saying I have 20" arms natural. Orals are not healthier, but since im only doing a little bit of juice, I might as well take the stuff that works faster. Its my choice. Sorry gramps, I will be as wise as you one day. If you knew how fucking dedicated I was, you wouldnt treat me like an asshole..... I show you respect, and I dont know why I do.....

Mudge, Sorry, im not all arms. When I was heavier, people said I cant believe you weight that much, now that im lighter, people cant believe I weigh so little. I will be posting new pics this summer.

Bimmer, read what I wrote to pullinbig.......Why do you think that I think im an expert? Where did you get that from? Anyway, I sure am doing good for myself, and thats ALL that counts! :)

I said in my post above that I dont think I look good enough to compete yet, but thats because im not planning on competeing yet. Sounds like you guys are a bit frustrated or something... Relax, im a nice fucking guy, and you guys are pissing me off! Wait until im fucking 35 years old, I will be pretty much an expert by then!!!!!!!!!

spiky, come on man..... haha.
 
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So HA!!!!!!!!

lol...... Just relax guys. I have a bit of a temper so please be nice to me. I hate getting pissed on here. I come on this damn board to learn, and answer questions, NOT TO GET ATTACKED!

I bet you guys would have been nicer if I said I had 17 inch arms...
 
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Golden Muscle,

What's your arm routine look like? 20 inch naturals is my goal. Any suggestions?
 
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HowardRearden said:
Golden Muscle,

What's your arm routine look like? 20 inch naturals is my goal. Any suggestions?

I started traing when I was 13 yrs old. Just normal exercises for bis and tris. 3-4 sets each, 1-2 times a week. Lots of my arm size came when I had a shoulder injury when I was 17 yrs old. I trained bis and tris only, for a whole summer. When I went back to school in grade 11 I think, everyone thought I was on sauce because my arms grew about 3 inches in 3 months and looked huge on a normal frame for a high school kid. If I spent 3 months on just arms again, I know they would blow up again, because I know my body. But the rest of my body would go downhill, so it isnt worth it. Thats why my arms are one of my best parts. They are one summer ahead of my body. lol, but thats ok cause it works well. Its like a guy with over developed pecs with smaller arms.
 
Golden_Muscle said:

Mudge, Sorry, im not all arms. When I was heavier, people said I cant believe you weight that much, now that im lighter, people cant believe I weigh so little. I will be posting new pics this summer.


Why'd you take down your old pics? They were always pretty impressive.
 
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