Test E Cycle - 3rd Cycle

[Lucky13]

sounds like we are both right

 

[Aztech]

no hcg, minimal shrinkage, still bust a nut, still get hard-ons..20 weeks in using nandrolone products. I felt using hcg caused gyno problems for me, maybe just in my head but whatever. Everyone's different, just keep doing what works for ya.

Lucky, you should post some lifting numbers...even if just a before, during, after percent increase in some of the compound lifts.

 

[outlawtas]

I like that lucky doesn't post numbers - they're not his primary goals from what I gather. All that really matters is that they're goin up.

 

[ManOfMuscle]

From Swale:

"I advise my Anabolic Androgenic Steroids (AAS) patients to use small amounts of Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) (250IU to 500IU) two days each week, right from the beginning of the cycle. This serves to maintain testicular form and function. It makes more sense to me to keep the horse in the barn, so to speak, then to have to chase it across three counties later on. I am also a big fan of maintaining estrogen within physiological ranges. Both therapies have been shown to hasten recovery.

Any more than 500IU of Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) per day causes too much aromatase activity. Some feel aromatase is actually toxic to the Leydig cells of the testes. You are then inducing primary hypogonadism (which is permanent) while treating steroid-induced secondary (hypogonadotrophic) hypogonadism (which is temporary--hopefully).

If 250IU or 500IU on two days each week isn’t enough to stave off testicular atrophy, then I recommend using it more days each week (as opposed to taking larger doses). In fact, I wouldn’t mind having a guy use 250IU per day ALL THROUGH the cycle. Those that have tell me they thus avoid that edgy, burned-out feeling they usually get. They also say they simply feel better each day. Subjective reports, to be sure, but they are hard not to appreciate. Especially when Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) is so inexpensive."

Totally agree with this, both in terms of personal experience and logic.

 

[Aztech]

I like that lucky doesn't post numbers - they're not his primary goals from what I gather. All that really matters is that they're goin up.

Guess we've all got different goals

 

[Lucky13]

I like that lucky doesn't post numbers - they're not his primary goals from what I gather. All that really matters is that they're goin up.

lol I guess i don't really care, staying safe and keeping joint wear and tear is my primary concern

Also I guess I don't really lift big weights so why would anyone care if I did post them

 

[Lucky13]

Thought I would just do a quick update on side effects at around 9weeks in.

errr none so that was quick

Infact I know this is going to be ironic but if anything I have less side effects being on then being off.

Heart palitations have nearly stopped
Much better moods and more controlled temper
Hair actually seems thicker ( maybe because of my over the top hair regime)
No spots
Better smoother skin
lower BP

about the only problem I seem to encounter is estrogen bloat but since starting AIFM that has been a thing of the past for nearly a month...


So err that's it....Test really is the Best

 

[Aztech]

wait until you try tren.

 

[ManOfMuscle]

Thought I would just do a quick update on side effects at around 9weeks in.

errr none so that was quick

Infact I know this is going to be ironic but if anything I have less side effects being on then being off.

Heart palitations have nearly stopped
Much better moods and more controlled temper
Hair actually seems thicker ( maybe because of my over the top hair regime)
No spots
Better smoother skin
lower BP

about the only problem I seem to encounter is estrogen bloat but since starting AIFM that has been a thing of the past for nearly a month...


So err that's it....Test really is the Best

Remember when you were scared of test?

 

[outlawtas]

Guess we've all got different goals

Exactly. If strength is your goal, then those are the numbers you need to pay attention to. But if it's size you want, then what does the weight your push or even the weight on the scale matter? Then again, who am I to talk, I always try to hit PR's to stroke my ego lol.

 

[Xtreme57]

Lucky,

In regards to your anti-hair loss protocol:

"Anti Hairloss Suppliments:

- Spironolactone @ 1200mg mixed into Nizoral Shampoo 2xED
- Topical Scalp Cream 5% Spironolactone + 1% finasteride 2xED"

1 - How did you mix the Spironolactone with the nizoral

2 - How did you mix the finasteride with the topical cream (I saw how you made the cream itself w/crushed pills ... but don't get the fin? I assume you used the liquid version? But how much did you add?

Thanks man,

Hair loss has been one of ... if not THE main reason I've avoided a cycle, but this looks like the best plan I've seen to prevent it.

 

[Aztech]

Exactly. If strength is your goal, then those are the numbers you need to pay attention to. But if it's size you want, then what does the weight your push or even the weight on the scale matter? Then again, who am I to talk, I always try to hit PR's to stroke my ego lol.

PR's are cool.

 

[Lucky13]

Lucky,

In regards to your anti-hair loss protocol:

"Anti Hairloss Suppliments:

- Spironolactone @ 1200mg mixed into Nizoral Shampoo 2xED
- Topical Scalp Cream 5% Spironolactone + 1% finasteride 2xED"

1 - How did you mix the Spironolactone with the nizoral

2 - How did you mix the finasteride with the topical cream (I saw how you made the cream itself w/crushed pills ... but don't get the fin? I assume you used the liquid version? But how much did you add?

Thanks man,

Hair loss has been one of ... if not THE main reason I've avoided a cycle, but this looks like the best plan I've seen to prevent it.

I used a very basic food blender, poured in the nizoral and then the spiro...used the slow blend function with short sharp bursts...if you just spin it a full wack the nizoral fluffs up....I then used a 10cc syringe ( no needle ) to suck it back up.

I actually don't use the fin in my topical mix anymore, but when I did I had fin powder which I ordered from china before the big shutdown...i'm a bit dubious about the fin topical mix anyway as it works so well orally why use it topically.

Do the cycle man, Test is the best thing since sliced bread! all other steroids will have an unknown affect on hairloss...at least with Test there are products designed to fight it's negative effects.

 

[Xtreme57]

Ahh good call. One more thing ... why 1.25mg of fin as opposed to the standard 1mg/day? And how did you manage to take in that extra 1/4? I've only seen 1mg pills.

 

[Lucky13]

Ahh good call. One more thing ... why 1.25mg of fin as opposed to the standard 1mg/day? And how did you manage to take in that extra 1/4? I've only seen 1mg pills.

It's much cheaper to buy Proscar which come in 5mg tabs, I then use a pill spliter to cut them into 4, giving 1.25mg each.

http://www.inhousepharmacy.com/hair-loss/fincar.html

 

[Lucky13]

day 74 ( 10 weeks 4 days )

I've been running clen for the last few days to help lean up towards the end of the cycle...I seem to react quite well with Clen including it's side effects so i'm started very low and will up my dosage as I built up a resiliance, I'm tempted to do a 1day on 1 day off 2week cycle as it's half life is 36hrs and the sides make life pretty exhausting...not sure if I can handle 2days in a row .....the last time I ran clen I did a 2week cycle losing around 8lbs of pretty much just fat...lets hope this is just as successful.

Diet is pretty tight at the moment with zero cardio, I was going for a run before work at 8am but at the moment it's to f-ing cold in the UK....I will try and start this up again! tryyyyy anyway

Clen is a wierd ass drug and I hate it but love the results....I appreciate alot of people may try to cut during there natty phase but to me that's just muscle suicide, besides it's depressing enough being natty let alone restricting your diet!

I think sacrificing these last few weeks of my cycle is worth it

 

[Lucky13]

Stopped Clen 2days ago, I felt like shit, I look like shit, I still feel like shit... in the mirror I look white and pale my eyes are puffy and I have huge rings under them, I feel weak, tired and dizzy...I'm not sure if this is the clen or some sort of cold so i'm laying off the poison..I mean clen until I feel better and then I'll try again waaaaaaaaa

 

[Xtreme57]

Man the more I hear about clen the more it sounds like bad in a bottle ....

 

[Lucky13]

I'm still not sure if this was the clen and lets face it cutting weight is never a nice experience...I'll try again in a few days when I'm feeling alot better and i'll see if the symtoms return.

 

[Xtreme57]

Yo by the way, how's the hair-loss going?