Test E Cycle - 3rd Cycle

FilipH said:
Also, imo you'll only really feel the effect at week 4. If you are around the 18th day, we should talk again in a week :P

Since he's feeling it like this right now, I can't wait till the stuff actually kicks :)
 
Aczech said:
I don't understand how you made your graph but nobody smart shoots test E once a week. Basis simply what i put i bolded above....the Test E would be WAY higher than the others...so your calculations are are incorrect. It's kinda common sense as well to say an ED injection regime is goin to lead to more stable hormone levels but for test E, E3D is probably the best route. Running prop, ED is best but some people can't take 12 weeks of daily injections so they go eod.

No doubt if you divided up the 300mg into ED shots (42.8mg), you would see the best results...but why would you be shooting test E (a heavier ester with actual less test than prop or suspension) ED when you could be shooting one of the later mentioned for better results?

If I were you, I'd do E3D, save some injections, save some pins. You'll find out soon injecting eod can be a chore sometimes when you have a couple bad injections in a row in the thighs, you find squating quite difficult.

Best of Luck.


I used the below data and placed it into a graph, data was obtained from the http://www.steroidsource.net/calculator.htm so I only have the programers word that his website outputs the correct info. But the graph should be accurate in relation to the data :)

51 34 22
44 29 29
39 44 25
34 38 31
29 33 27
25 47 33
22 41 28
56 36 34
49 50 30
43 43 35
37 38 30
32 51 36
28 45 31
24 39 36
58 52 32
51 46 37
44 40 32
38 53 37
33 46 32
29 40 37
25 53 32
59 46 37
51 40 33
45 54 38
39 47 33
34 41 38
29 54 33
26 47 38
300mg Test E EW 150mg Test E E4D 75mg Test E EOD


Not sure what you mean above where I have bolded it as they are all Test E ?
 
what doesn't make sense is the very first line of data.

you shoot 300mg and get 51mg active test (1/6)
you shoot 150mg and get 34mg active test (1/5)
you shoot 75mg and get 22mg active test (1/3)

my ratios are approx but for the same type of ester, these should be the same.

I think something is wrong with the calculator.
 
Aczech said:
what doesn't make sense is the very first line of data.

you shoot 300mg and get 51mg active test (1/6)
you shoot 150mg and get 34mg active test (1/5)
you shoot 75mg and get 22mg active test (1/3)

my ratios are approx but for the same type of ester, these should be the same.

I think something is wrong with the calculator.

Lol oh yeah, maybe someone like DocJ or Mranak might be able to explain that :)
 
Aczech said:
Test E is very slow....three weeks is the miminal to notice results from it...

Yeah,
E is very slow and 3 weeks is minimal.I stack it with Sus250 for quick results.
250-250/w is fine.
 
Day 23

Weighed in today at 201 naked first thing in the morning, went for a run and took a crap and then dropped to 199 lol so doesn't look like I'm at my 200 just yet. I'm still taking the aromisan at 12.5mg ED so have zero bloat.

Gymwise the difference is just insane, my muscles just love to lift infact the muscle bellys got so full of blood today that I seriously thought they might tear i've never had a pump like it, it's sounds rediculous but my skin is stretched so fucking tight when at full pump that I'm really worried i'm going to get stretch marks.

I'm starting to lift more weight and I'm up 4kg on concentration curls, I'm nursing a bad shoulder so I'm not lifting anywhere near my max on my chest excercises, I'm going for form rather then weight. I know it's going to limit my gains but better safe then sorry.

I'm really not sure if I'm losing bodyfat or not, I feel I am but no rock hard proof.

So far Test is getting 10/10 :)
 
Lucky13 said:
gymwise the difference is just insane, my muscles just love to lift infact the muscle bellys got so full of blood today that I seriously thought they might tear i've never had a pump like it, it's sounds rediculous but my skin is stretched so fucking tight when at full pump that I'm really worried i'm going to get stretch marks.


I know exactly what you mean. And the bigger you get, the bigger pumps you get. Arnold wasn't lying lol.
 
That's amazing how fast you felt a difference. It takes me about 4 weeks to really 'feel it'.

Has the hair line been affected yet? or is everything you're using to combat it seem to be working?

Good luck.... post some pics.
 
PARKER27 said:
That's amazing how fast you felt a difference. It takes me about 4 weeks to really 'feel it'.

Has the hair line been affected yet? or is everything you're using to combat it seem to be working?

Good luck.... post some pics.

Hair seems fine so far, no shedding....problem is hairloss takes months to see the damage your doing so only time will tell....

Hopefully the hairmeds are helping :) I would have felt alot safer going into this with dutisteride + finasteride but I had to drop the dutisteride when I realised it was giving me heart palpitations.
 
Day 24

Thought I would do a quick update on all the sides.

Surprissed I'm not getting any acne as I get a little even off cycle, I do have 2-3 showers a day anyway so maybe that helps, I'm not sweating anymore then normal so again that probably helps. My hands feel a tiny bit swollen as when I clench my fist there seems to be a little more pressure then normal although there is no visable sign of bloat anywhere else on my body, I might up the dosage of aromisan to 25mg tonight to see if that helps.

Sex drive wise I have constant boners, morning/noon and night...it's actually a bit annoying but my girlfriend seems to enjoy it :)

As above I havn't had any noticable hairloss or shedding.

No change in my anger management, if anything Test has improved my moods..the only time I felt a little agitated was when I had a little bloat...after a few days on aromisan that was gone and I felt super calm again. Estrogen definately isn't good for me.

Injections are going very well, I inject EOD and havn't had one single painful injection yet, I'm only using a 25g ( 23g to draw ) so that must help :)

Bizarely I actually look forward to the injections, it's not every day you get to turn yourself into a mini superman with a liquid so I just love doing it....gym tommorow and I can't fucking wait :spin:
 
Day 26

Been weighing in the last few days at 201 naked first thing wahoooo :) and commonly 205ish during the evenings, I've upped the dosage of aromisan now to 25mg ED before bed and also another 12.5mg first thing in the morning, I've read 25mg surpresses 80% of estrogen within 24hrs but that's at normal ranges of Testosterone, so I've upped it a little to try and take this into account...I don't get any sides from aromisan and I havn't read anything do bad to make me concerned about higher dosages...not like Nolva or clomid!!!

Workout was good yesterday but I suffered quite a dozen or so skipped heart beats although I was pushing myself pretty hard!

Energy levels are still really good much better then normal, I get up most mornings and go for a 20min run on a empty stomach, this is more for cardio health rather then fat loss, seems to keep my heart beat a little happier.

Sex drive is a bit odd, I have constant boners and i'm seriously in the mood but I can't come that easy, it's also a bit disapointing when I go to lay a few lines down on my girl and not much comes out..I don't reckon she's realised and once I start the HCG I'm hoping that will cure that problem as I've heard cum shots make a "cum" back boom boom :rolleyes2
 
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Day 29

Started HCG today at 250i.u every 3days, balls have shrunk a little so will be interesting to see how quickly they come back up.

Joints are feeling alot stronger and this makes sense as Test aparantly increases collagen synthesis at low doses it's only at higher doses it actually weakens them....this info is from a few studies I've read but certainly feels like it's happening

Skin is also looking better, havn't read up on this but I seem to remember a article related to Test Hormone Replacement Therapy (HRT) and skin condition.

Lifted my personal record today on quite a few exercises, strength and desire to lift heavy weights is just of the scale for me personaly, much more then I ever got with Var or Tbol!

If my hair stays on my head and my heart palpitations hold together, Test will become a great friend of mine :)
 
Lucky13 said:
Sex drive is a bit odd, I have constant boners and i'm seriously in the mood but I can't come that easy, it's also a bit disapointing when I go to lay a few lines down on my girl and not much comes out..I don't reckon she's realised and once I start the HCG I'm hoping that will cure that problem as I've heard cum shots make a "cum" back boom boom :rolleyes2

This is pretty standard for me, and yes hcg should help "normalize" things. If I read correctly you are doing 37.5 mg aromasin per day? That seems awfully high.
 
Not sure how fast this HCG works but definitely came a lot easier this morning, also had a massive come shot!!…the first symtom could easily be in my head but the second one seemed pretty conclusive :)

I also slept a lot better last night and woke up feeling very refreshed, my mood seems improoved…I did a little research and found quite a few studies regarding mood enhancement whilst on HCG,

Loss of LH/FST also downgrade thyroid function and HCG has LH and FST properties. You nay feel more 'energy' and this might be part of the mood improvement. . ..
 
ManOfMuscle said:
This is pretty standard for me, and yes hcg should help "normalize" things. If I read correctly you are doing 37.5 mg aromasin per day? That seems awfully high.

I tend to know when my estrogen levels get to low as my achiles tendon and back start to ache and feel stiff, I'm not getting any of that so I'm fairly confident the dose is ok...Aromisan isn't anywhere near as strong as letro which I've seen quite a few people use, so I'm not too concerned.

Letro can reduce estrogen levels by 98% or greater; clinically a dose as low as 100mcgs has been shown to provide maximum aromatase inhibition (2)!
 
Yeah, I wasn't concerned about the dose for safety concerns, more just the fact that you may be wasting it and aromasin is fairly spendy.
 
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