I am considering converting 100 tablets or 2g of fina using a kit from finafarm.com. I have never done this before. It is supposed to make 30ml. How much should someone that has never tried it before use per dose. 2ml,3ml? I am 150, 34yo and workout everyday. Also, do I need to add testosterone so I dont get fina-dick? Where would I get that from? Do I need to eat more? drink more? Stop taking creatine? I know, many questions. Please help with any questions that you may know. Does it matter if it is an ass shot, or arm shot?
Newbie/virgin here. Fina questions. Please help
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Teutonic
New member
Welcome and be glad u stopped by..
It is apparant by your question s that you have no business trying to make, much less run tren..fina. It s 5x as strong as test.
read your ass off..get a basic understanding of why
u alway s do test first..alone
understand the differance between an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) and a serm ..
what does post cycle therapy (pct) stand for..
Telling you how to make tren and run tren would be like teaching my 4 yr old how to strip, lock and load daddies AK..ain t gonna happen till he quit s pointing his plastic water pistol in my face...take s years..
No offense..150 pounds..noi cycle experience...tren might kill you dude.
It is apparant by your question s that you have no business trying to make, much less run tren..fina. It s 5x as strong as test.
read your ass off..get a basic understanding of why
u alway s do test first..alone
understand the differance between an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) and a serm ..
what does post cycle therapy (pct) stand for..
Telling you how to make tren and run tren would be like teaching my 4 yr old how to strip, lock and load daddies AK..ain t gonna happen till he quit s pointing his plastic water pistol in my face...take s years..
No offense..150 pounds..noi cycle experience...tren might kill you dude.
TonySuicideKing
The 'Ology Man Whore
yeah im not fucking with tren for a loooong time. heard some horror stories of that shit. just not ready for it, maybe for cycle 4 ill take a crack at her
I appreciate your advice Teutonic, and I am looking for opinions just like yours. I am pretty sure that I am going to try it. I have been reading up on it all over the net. I cant find that many negatives other than the "roid rage", acne, loss of hair. Seems that all of these are consistent with other steroids. But what is gyno? BTW, I am from N.O. as well. Born and raised. WHO DAT
TonySuicideKing
The 'Ology Man Whore
roid rage is a complete misconception. fyi... the only thing you will notice with "alot" of gear is increased libido, rarely ever increased anger
RA64
I am banned!
Do you know the number to the posion control center in N.O. ?
You might want to program 911 into your phone, and your Docs emergency number also.
TonySuicideKing
The 'Ology Man Whore
lol no no no, wasnt assuming that. sorry if it came off like that. and libido can be said as many ways.... but my definition... you want poon/ass all the fucking time
Thx Tony. Oh, well damn, maybe my wife needs some of that shit. Guess I can inject her while she is sleeping. Shhh. But seriously, if 100 tablets make 30ml, then 1 ml should equal approx 3 tablets. I was told by a guy i work with to crush 3 at a time and mix it with rubbing alcohol. That shit sounds crazy as fuck. I dont see grape oil being dangerous like rubbing alcohol. I am guessing 1cc to 1.5 cc's would be about right. I just dont want to hurt myself.
jimbo79
stop fn staring!
Wrong-----decreased or increased libido---------------acne-----------hair loss------------------gains------------oily skin-----------------the list goes on my friend!!!!!!!!
TonySuicideKing
The 'Ology Man Whore
acne/hair loss blah blah... those are all things you should know you have a great chance of getting even before starting to take gear. thats just basic knowledge. im not a fan of losing my hair, but i knew the risk before i put it in my body
jimbo79
stop fn staring!
Like talking to a kid--------you missed the point! And it's always a risk not just the first time....
I recommend finding your own basic knowledge..
TonySuicideKing
The 'Ology Man Whore
no. you just fail to see words in my shit that have a little something called... quotation marks. they look a little something like this " "
RA64
I am banned!
T, please link him to your Tren nightmare thread, he needs to read it.
Mr. Humdiddly
Knowledge Receptacle
Welcome to ology.
To answer your questions first.
Gyno is the development of female breast tissue in males. Gyno is the shortened version of gynecomastia.
Libido is the clinical term for sexual desire or drive.
Your diet needs to be exactly on point down to the gram. You need a plan for calorie count as well as macro-nutrient split.
Your daily H20 intake should exceed at least 1.5 gallons with 2 gallons being preferable.
Your training should be goal oriented and will vary on hypertrophic, strength or isometric movements.
You absolutely have to run testosterone with your tren. Prop is the most common to use with tren because of it's short ester. With out test you will experience tren dick. That is the best case scenario however. Testosterone is needed for a variety of uses in the body. Lack of testosterone can lead to numerous side effects.
That being said... Teutonic is right on point. Let me explain why.
Tren is the most potent anabolic steroid known at this point. It is usually NEVER RECOMMENDED until the user has multiple cycles under their belt including another milder 19 nor compond I.E. Deca.
Tren side effects include progesterone gynecomastia resulting from increased prolactin levels. Users with no prior experience with 19 Nor's bodies will have no idea regarding the effects of progesterone on their body. This progesterone gyno can be combated by the use of prolactin inhibitors. Example: Parmipexole.
Tren side effects include high blood pressure, dehydration, excessive sweating, hair loss, hard HPTA shutdown, night sweats, tren cough, increased liver enzyme values, tachycardia, depression, insomnia, and gynecomastia to name a few.
In the inexperienced (I.E. YOU) tren related sides can result in aneurysm leading to death due to increased blood pressure, loss of all gains due to lack of proper post cycle therapy (pct), tachycardia inducing a heart attack, and extreme cases of progesterone gynecomastia.
Bear in mind tren has an anabolic score of 500 versus testosterone's score of 100. Therefore all sides will be extreme compared to testosterone.
Also your use of a kit shows a complete ignorance of crystallography. Kit use will result in an unknown quantity of tren dosage. It could be underdosed in which case you have wasted your money or it could be overdosed and kill you. Due to your inexperience you are likely to use unsanitary methods of production leading to infection.
In my opinion if you do decide to use tren you have about a 80% chance of messing yourself up beyond repair. This is due to your lack of basic diet and training requirements, lack of basic cycling knowledge, lack of research regarding tren, lack of any cycle experience, low body weight, lack of Aromatase inhibitor (AI) and SERM knowledge, lack of proper post cycle therapy (pct) protocol knowledge and your lack of proper dosage measurements via use of a kit.
If you truly desire to use anabolic steroids the first cycle should be 500mg test E a week for 12 weeks.
However I think you should post your diet and training so we can make a determination if improvements can be made without gear or if gear is necessary.
I hope you take this advice to heart. It is not a scare tactic when we say tren can kill you.
To answer your questions first.
Gyno is the development of female breast tissue in males. Gyno is the shortened version of gynecomastia.
Libido is the clinical term for sexual desire or drive.
Your diet needs to be exactly on point down to the gram. You need a plan for calorie count as well as macro-nutrient split.
Your daily H20 intake should exceed at least 1.5 gallons with 2 gallons being preferable.
Your training should be goal oriented and will vary on hypertrophic, strength or isometric movements.
You absolutely have to run testosterone with your tren. Prop is the most common to use with tren because of it's short ester. With out test you will experience tren dick. That is the best case scenario however. Testosterone is needed for a variety of uses in the body. Lack of testosterone can lead to numerous side effects.
That being said... Teutonic is right on point. Let me explain why.
Tren is the most potent anabolic steroid known at this point. It is usually NEVER RECOMMENDED until the user has multiple cycles under their belt including another milder 19 nor compond I.E. Deca.
Tren side effects include progesterone gynecomastia resulting from increased prolactin levels. Users with no prior experience with 19 Nor's bodies will have no idea regarding the effects of progesterone on their body. This progesterone gyno can be combated by the use of prolactin inhibitors. Example: Parmipexole.
Tren side effects include high blood pressure, dehydration, excessive sweating, hair loss, hard HPTA shutdown, night sweats, tren cough, increased liver enzyme values, tachycardia, depression, insomnia, and gynecomastia to name a few.
In the inexperienced (I.E. YOU) tren related sides can result in aneurysm leading to death due to increased blood pressure, loss of all gains due to lack of proper post cycle therapy (pct), tachycardia inducing a heart attack, and extreme cases of progesterone gynecomastia.
Bear in mind tren has an anabolic score of 500 versus testosterone's score of 100. Therefore all sides will be extreme compared to testosterone.
Also your use of a kit shows a complete ignorance of crystallography. Kit use will result in an unknown quantity of tren dosage. It could be underdosed in which case you have wasted your money or it could be overdosed and kill you. Due to your inexperience you are likely to use unsanitary methods of production leading to infection.
In my opinion if you do decide to use tren you have about a 80% chance of messing yourself up beyond repair. This is due to your lack of basic diet and training requirements, lack of basic cycling knowledge, lack of research regarding tren, lack of any cycle experience, low body weight, lack of Aromatase inhibitor (AI) and SERM knowledge, lack of proper post cycle therapy (pct) protocol knowledge and your lack of proper dosage measurements via use of a kit.
If you truly desire to use anabolic steroids the first cycle should be 500mg test E a week for 12 weeks.
However I think you should post your diet and training so we can make a determination if improvements can be made without gear or if gear is necessary.
I hope you take this advice to heart. It is not a scare tactic when we say tren can kill you.
Wow, a lot of info. I dont have a specific diet. I dont count calories. What is 500 mg of test E? How do I get that? My goal is to gain mass and get a little stronger. I have been small my entire life. I have never benched more than 160. I dont care to get cut, because there is nothing to cut.
Teutonic
New member
Look to the right of the screen bro..it is so e ZZZZZZZ....
u need 3 bottle s of test e 250 per ml/cc
500 a week
go to rui look up ^^^..
buy 1 bottle of aromasine..dose as needed..12.5 ed to start
get 28 - 50 mg tab s of chlomid for post cycle therapy (pct) for 2 weeks after last pin...
Safe simple..
-----no tren for you-----
resaerch research research
This ain t rocket science but it s not beer and weed either..be careful who listen to..I / we have no reason to fuck with you or to fuck you up.
I m not..and will never be..affiliated with a source except as a user of lil bit s...I don t push noone s shit...
I share and care as I need all the karma I can get to make up for my past transgressions in life.
u need 3 bottle s of test e 250 per ml/cc
500 a week
go to rui look up ^^^..
buy 1 bottle of aromasine..dose as needed..12.5 ed to start
get 28 - 50 mg tab s of chlomid for post cycle therapy (pct) for 2 weeks after last pin...
Safe simple..
-----no tren for you-----
resaerch research research
This ain t rocket science but it s not beer and weed either..be careful who listen to..I / we have no reason to fuck with you or to fuck you up.
I m not..and will never be..affiliated with a source except as a user of lil bit s...I don t push noone s shit...
I share and care as I need all the karma I can get to make up for my past transgressions in life.
Mr. Humdiddly
Knowledge Receptacle
Let me help you out. On the navigation bar (the bar right above the RUI banner). There is a button that says search. All the questions your asking have been answered before on numerous occasions and your so new to this it would take me all day to explain everything to you. Use the search for specific questions. Like your question about test E search for test E. What you really need to do is spend some time reading the stickies in the forums. The stickies will give you everything you need to educate yourself on various topics, and they were written by individuals much more intelligent and knowledgeable then me.
IE your diet knowledge is hurting so go to diet forum and read the stickies. In case your super green then I will tell you what a stickie is. Stickies are the posts closest to the top of the page in a forum. It is more complex then that but, that should suffice as an explanation.
Spend some time educating yourself then if you have specific questions start a thread and ask them. Make sure you read first and try to figure out the answer to basic questions yourself. Ignorant posts about information you could have read yourself are often greeted with hostility as you waste the time of the vets, mods and users.
I am sure you would like me to just spoon feed you the answers but, that would be like me trying to explain how to build a car to a guy that has never even seen a screwdriver.
Read, read, then read some more. Read the stickies first and if you have specific questions use the search and if you still can't find an answer start a thread. I have been in your shoes thankfully I had an older brother who kept me from killing myself through ignorant usage. Hopefully I can do the same for you.
To Teutonic point also be aware of the reputation points of the poster. For instance Teutonic has 15 rep points which means he is a very trusted and knowledgeable source. I on the other hand only have one point. So if there is a difference of opinion the majority of the time go with the higher rep.
IE your diet knowledge is hurting so go to diet forum and read the stickies. In case your super green then I will tell you what a stickie is. Stickies are the posts closest to the top of the page in a forum. It is more complex then that but, that should suffice as an explanation.
Spend some time educating yourself then if you have specific questions start a thread and ask them. Make sure you read first and try to figure out the answer to basic questions yourself. Ignorant posts about information you could have read yourself are often greeted with hostility as you waste the time of the vets, mods and users.
I am sure you would like me to just spoon feed you the answers but, that would be like me trying to explain how to build a car to a guy that has never even seen a screwdriver.
Read, read, then read some more. Read the stickies first and if you have specific questions use the search and if you still can't find an answer start a thread. I have been in your shoes thankfully I had an older brother who kept me from killing myself through ignorant usage. Hopefully I can do the same for you.
To Teutonic point also be aware of the reputation points of the poster. For instance Teutonic has 15 rep points which means he is a very trusted and knowledgeable source. I on the other hand only have one point. So if there is a difference of opinion the majority of the time go with the higher rep.
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