Its true that this site seems to promote Pinnacle and that it is difficult to find something positive about them on other sites. But the other sites tend to promote other UGL's so who knows, its probably just a competition thing. One thing that I find to be funny is that some sites do not allow any labs to be named in threads unless it is talking shit about Pinnacle. Seems like there is a lot of hating going on. I feel confident that Pinnacle is what it says it is. I'll know for sure in a couple of months.