I hate winny

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DougoeFre5h said:
lol @ Tx cmon brotha dont tell me your a Winstrol (winny) lover.

Nah, I love ox. I used to love tren until it wanted to give me breasteseseses. I don't think it's as bad as you make it out though.

How about we ban anybody who advocates using Winstrol (winny), likes using Winstrol (winny), or mentions it without saying how bad it is? That could be like the n-word rule, lol.

Then posts could end with multiple posts with one letter only like so:

W
I
N
N
Y

:)

Anyways, I'm thinking about maybe trying a test/ox cycle in a bit. I haven't done anything in awhile and I look like it. That is, if you are ok with oxandrolone. I mean, if ox stole your girlfriend, and Winstrol (winny) shot your dog, that just leaves me with dbol or turinabol really, and I'm pretty sure turinabol was pretty mean to you when you were growing up, and it's not like dbol has ever returned any of your phone calls, so now what?
 
hardbodyguard said:
What's the truth and if Winstrol (winny) doesn't make you cut what is good for cutting?

Truth:
Cardio will help get you cut - notice the 'help'
Dnp will help get you cut - notice the 'help'
Even ephedrine/caffeine will help get you cut - notice the 'help'
Diet will help get you cut - notice the 'help'
Diet combined with exercise is the only long term strategy for losing fat, period. Diet alone won't do it, your body compensates. Exercise alone won't do it if you eat like crap and overfeed yourself. Supplements only supplement what you are doing.

The only thing that is magic in a pill is dnp, and even then, you can still probably eat enough and not lose fat.

Truth:
Donuts taste good but are not conducive to getting cut.
 
TxLonghorn said:
Anyways, I'm thinking about maybe trying a test/ox cycle in a bit.
That's the mix that I'm starting tomorrow. And then the next hormone for me to add later in life is the tren enan.

I've got a doctor's appointment/bloodwork in the morning after which I start. I'm very much looking forward to it.

TxLonghorn said:
Truth:
Donuts taste good but are not conducive to getting cut.
FUCK, why didn't somebody tell me this earlier?

I'm trying to go that whole cutting-diet bullshit right now. Tuna, homemade salsa, oatmeal. I think the reason a diet like this works is that the person starts to vomit from these diets.
 
A stanozolol question. Testosterone is converted to DHT (dehydrotestosterone). Stanaozolol is a derivitave of DHT. Bodybuilders on AS take drugs like propecia to block the levels of DHT because excess DHT causes hair loss. Thus, and the amount of DHT is blocked by the taking of drugs like prpopecia. If taking such a compound as Propecia, wouldn't the effects of Stanozolol be compromised?
 
Medussa said:
A stanozolol question. Testosterone is converted to DHT (dehydrotestosterone). Stanaozolol is a derivitave of DHT. Bodybuilders on AS take drugs like propecia to block the levels of DHT because excess DHT causes hair loss. Thus, and the amount of DHT is blocked by the taking of drugs like prpopecia. If taking such a compound as Propecia, wouldn't the effects of Stanozolol be compromised?

This is why most recommend/prefer a topical approach to hairloss rather than a systemic one like swallowing a pill.
 
DougoeFre5h said:
Because I put it here ;)

Us mods can do what we want. Its like communism with a nice freedom o' speech twist. That is until you post a source or something then I gotta edit the shit out of your thread and make you look like you wanted gay porn forwarded to your addy.

I'm down for the gay porn :bj: :elephant:
 
TxLonghorn said:
Truth:
Cardio will help get you cut - notice the 'help'
Dnp will help get you cut - notice the 'help'
Even ephedrine/caffeine will help get you cut - notice the 'help'
Diet will help get you cut - notice the 'help'
Diet combined with exercise is the only long term strategy for losing fat, period. Diet alone won't do it, your body compensates. Exercise alone won't do it if you eat like crap and overfeed yourself. Supplements only supplement what you are doing.

The only thing that is magic in a pill is dnp, and even then, you can still probably eat enough and not lose fat.

Truth:
Donuts taste good but are not conducive to getting cut.

Thanks TXLonghorn
 
why is that topical only affect it locally? if the medicine is bein absored into the body should it be working through out?
 
Medussa said:
A stanozolol question. Testosterone is converted to DHT (dehydrotestosterone). Stanaozolol is a derivitave of DHT. Bodybuilders on AS take drugs like propecia to block the levels of DHT because excess DHT causes hair loss. Thus, and the amount of DHT is blocked by the taking of drugs like prpopecia. If taking such a compound as Propecia, wouldn't the effects of Stanozolol be compromised?
Propecia/finasteride does not block DHT. Instead, it inhibits the ability of 5-alpha reductase type 2 to convert testosterone into DHT. If you inject DHT or a DHT like compound, then Propecia will not affect that since it does not block or suppress the hormone itself but rather a hormonal conversion.
 
simpllyhuge said:
why is that topical only affect it locally? if the medicine is bein absored into the body should it be working through out?
The scalp has increased levels of 5alpha reductase and, along with that, higher levels of DHT. If you apply a topical product to the scalp, then it tends to do a much better job at the scalp than it does throughout the rest of the body. So a topical application is in fact targeted.

SWALE prescribes a particular topical DHT preventer to his patients that want/need it and I'm sure he would have mentioned if he saw a reduction in DHT in their bloodwork (SWALE is a fan of DHT). He has not.
 
TxLonghorn said:
Nah, I love ox. I used to love tren until it wanted to give me breasteseseses. I don't think it's as bad as you make it out though.

How about we ban anybody who advocates using Winstrol (winny), likes using Winstrol (winny), or mentions it without saying how bad it is? That could be like the n-word rule, lol.

Then posts could end with multiple posts with one letter only like so:

W
I
N
N
Y

:)

Anyways, I'm thinking about maybe trying a test/ox cycle in a bit. I haven't done anything in awhile and I look like it. That is, if you are ok with oxandrolone. I mean, if ox stole your girlfriend, and Winstrol (winny) shot your dog, that just leaves me with dbol or turinabol really, and I'm pretty sure turinabol was pretty mean to you when you were growing up, and it's not like dbol has ever returned any of your phone calls, so now what?

Ok Winstrol (winny) didnt shoot my dog, it ran over my cat and told me about it later. Fuck Winstrol (winny), what a dumb ass drug to take given the myriad of other drugs that do everything and anything Winstrol (winny) can do without all the junk Winstrol (winny) also does.

Ok its like this. You're having a party. You want to invite all the people that will make the party fun and shit, and keep the trouble makers away because its your new apartment and shit is clean, your bedroom door is unlocked etc. So who in thier right mind invited a guy who steals, smacks your girlfreinds ass, shits in the top tank, pukes on the sofa, drinks all your liquor out of the freezer BUT WAIT...oh its ok cuz he brought some hot chicks and a 30 pack. Good logic.

And on the topic of topical dht conversion stopping creams. I love topical shit. My next conversion like I said is going to be a nice antioxidant cream. Im thinking idebenone and maybe some other stuff.

And on cutting.....

Diet is a fucking corner stone. Get your macros straight and cut your carbs a few hours before bed and your straight.

Cardio is a MUST. I dont care if you think you can cut with diet alone. If you somehow know how to eat enough to stay strong and full, yet shed fat without doing cardio (even low-intensity) you're a genius.

Btw I hate diet drugs. I hate clen. Discuss.
 
DougoeFre5h said:
Ok Winstrol (winny) didnt shoot my dog, it ran over my cat and told me about it later. Fuck Winstrol (winny), what a dumb ass drug to take given the myriad of other drugs that do everything and anything Winstrol (winny) can do without all the junk Winstrol (winny) also does.

Ok its like this. You're having a party. You want to invite all the people that will make the party fun and shit, and keep the trouble makers away because its your new apartment and shit is clean, your bedroom door is unlocked etc. So who in thier right mind invited a guy who steals, smacks your girlfreinds ass, shits in the top tank, pukes on the sofa, drinks all your liquor out of the freezer BUT WAIT...oh its ok cuz he brought some hot chicks and a 30 pack. Good logic.

And on the topic of topical dht conversion stopping creams. I love topical shit. My next conversion like I said is going to be a nice antioxidant cream. Im thinking idebenone and maybe some other stuff.

And on cutting.....

Diet is a fucking corner stone. Get your macros straight and cut your carbs a few hours before bed and your straight.

Cardio is a MUST. I dont care if you think you can cut with diet alone. If you somehow know how to eat enough to stay strong and full, yet shed fat without doing cardio (even low-intensity) you're a genius.

Btw I hate diet drugs. I hate clen. Discuss.
LOL.....for some reason Gold Medalist Ben Johnson tested positive for..........yep........Winstrol.....wonder drug of the Anabolic Androgenic Steroids (AAS) world!!!!!!!! WOOOOOHOOOO!!!!!!!!!!


LOL

Gator
 
And now looks like a complete ass amongst those (like me and tx, pb, rjh etc) that know that Winstrol (winny) is GAY. He might as well have been caught with a buttplug in his ass.

BESIDES hes a fucking black athelete. Shoot him with just about anything, slap him in the ass and watch him break some records. Its the way of the world man. Winstrol (winny), ox, test, little watromelin, whatever.
 
gator_mclusky said:
I ve used it over 10 yrs off and on......last yr i tested at 217 for cholesterol. I got it down in the 170-180s so im fine.
I blame it on the lbs and lbs of red meat i stuffed in my mouth over those 10+years....not the Winstrol......

I scored 181 and my HDL was not acceptable, total cholesterol doesn't mean jack brother. Post up your HDL number, mine was 15.

What you ate 10 years ago has nothing to do with today, minus arterial plaque buildup.
 
Mudge said:
I scored 181 and my HDL was not acceptable, total cholesterol doesn't mean jack brother. Post up your HDL number, mine was 15.

What you ate 10 years ago has nothing to do with today, minus arterial plaque buildup.

exactly... i was at 178 with a HDL of 20. Not good.

as for winny...

1. it fucking hurts to shoot
2. yes you can take it orally but then you have added liver issues
3. it fucking hurts to shoot
4. its a god damn piece of shit that you have to shoot EOD at best... preferably ED for the best results
5. it fucking hurts to shoot
6. why would you even consider Stan when you can make choices like Dros Enan or Tren Enan that you can shoot 2x a week (yes I know they are different, but hard and strong is hard and strong... so fuck off)
7. its white... and we all know that eventually anything that is white will cause you problems in life.... just look at all the issues African Americans had to face back in the day. :D
#8 and most importantly...

WINNY DOESN'T EVEN MAKE YOU CUT!!

There. Eight reasons why Winstrol (winny) fucking sucks. Now Dougo... please close this fucking thread. I am so sick of hearing Gator trying to debate why he thinks he is right. Next thing you know he'll start another 'why on Earth would you use HCG during a cycle' thread. :dumbass:

just kidding Gator... i know you're SWOLT!!
 
dougo this is the same guy who started at negative 275lbs 12 years ago and is now 250lbs. =0l

you even defended him.

and you guys wonder why i rarely go in the anabolic forum.
 
pullinbig said:
dougo this is the same guy who started at negative 275lbs 12 years ago and is now 250lbs. =0l

you even defended him.

and you guys wonder why i rarely go in the anabolic forum.
No no PB i didnt defend him personally. I gave benefit of doubt to all the armchair scientists and board-bound bodybuilders alike. The anabolic forum is like watching daytime TV. Sometimes you get a decent show to watch buts its mostly garbage, commercials and soap operas.
 
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