Who has used Pinnacle labs?
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DADAWG
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agreed
JOMO718
Radioactive
x2. Iv'e been pinning their Prop with no pip and no problems with using a 25g 1" in the glutes
jumpinjeff
TST/TRN/MST 200/600/600
the only time you "waste" gear on an injection is when some seeps all the way back out the tract after you pull the needle out.... like if it leaks down out of your ass where you pinned. otherwise your body will absorb it all fine, and there is plenty of evidence out there to back that up. you can pin deep in a muscle, shallow in a muscle, or not in a muscle, it's all the same. your body will absorb slower outside of the muscle though. and it can be more painful, some people get reactions pinning subq as well. though not as common.
personally, i prefer grapeseed oil brews. i like it better than other oils, even those less viscose. just my personal preference.
personally, i prefer grapeseed oil brews. i like it better than other oils, even those less viscose. just my personal preference.
snowblue
just another gym rat lol
ok thanks for the info..i pin again monday i'll use a 1 1/2...maybe that is my problem, people were talking about how small their pins were so I got a 29g... I was also told to pin in a fatty area so I was pinning my ass with only a 1/2 inch...I got a few 1 1/2...I'll let you know how it goes..Thank you again
x2. Gear is not wasted when not injected deep enough lol.
As the poster stated above, plenty of evidence to back it up. Many on testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) pin sub-q.
Pinnacle@Rep
Muscles can't stop this..
If the gear ends up sub q and it is long estered, such as Test E C and Tren E, you will find that IN MOST PEOPLE ( and since majority RULES) there will start to become little knots everywhere you inject sub q and in MOST PEOPLE there will be an inflammation reaction. When one gets this inflammation reaction that my friends is your body attacking!!!!!! The substance...... AND the body WILL MOST DEFINATELY WIN!!!! Hence ALOT of this hormone will be WASTED!!!! If you are one of the lucky people that have either A) gotten your body used to this or B) are not affected by it then sub q it up!!!! However, if you belong to the MAJORITY then prepare to lose gear to a body that is made to destroy foreign substances in the body!!!! Especially in the sub q region of the body which has the majority of your receptors for noticing these foreign subs!!!!!
The ONLY time sub q is even remotely normal (as doctors across the world would be using this MUCH EASIER technique if it were the case) is when you are on testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) levels of test and injecting FREQUENT pins of .2-.3 ml of fluid that is relatively SHORT in ester length!!!!
I deal with this in the office EVERYDAY and there is a good reason IM shots have always been IM and subq subq!!!! I'm pretty sure the medical community understands this field enough that if subq were superior over IM for Depot or thicker oil based substances that is exactly what they would do.
In the amounts that is required for what MOST people use juice for (1ml or larger pins for SIZE) subq is not advised and once tried...... NOT PREFERRED by the majority!!!
Try a cycle subq then PCT properly, recover, and then try a solid IM cycle that follows the protocol I listed above and you be the judge!!! I already know which will provide better results and therein lies the answer to the debate!!!
The ONLY time sub q is even remotely normal (as doctors across the world would be using this MUCH EASIER technique if it were the case) is when you are on testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) levels of test and injecting FREQUENT pins of .2-.3 ml of fluid that is relatively SHORT in ester length!!!!
I deal with this in the office EVERYDAY and there is a good reason IM shots have always been IM and subq subq!!!! I'm pretty sure the medical community understands this field enough that if subq were superior over IM for Depot or thicker oil based substances that is exactly what they would do.
In the amounts that is required for what MOST people use juice for (1ml or larger pins for SIZE) subq is not advised and once tried...... NOT PREFERRED by the majority!!!
Try a cycle subq then PCT properly, recover, and then try a solid IM cycle that follows the protocol I listed above and you be the judge!!! I already know which will provide better results and therein lies the answer to the debate!!!
grind4it
Junior Bodybuilder
JStarks is correct. I am on testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) and all of the Test C I get (CVS - Watson, etc.) states that it is intended for "Deep Inter Muscle" use. With that said; they do not provide a definition of "Deep" my PCP defines deep as 1.5" in the glute and 1" in the quad.
Pinnacle@Rep
Muscles can't stop this..
LOL, I may not be all gorilla man sam and 300lbs but fact is..... I don't want to be. Looks can be deceiving but I promise you.... I have the science part of this thing down "somewhat" to a T.
ski10804life
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Just read this entire thread, good stuff guys. I have been researching pinnacle for some time so has a buddy of mine since his guy stopped working. I***8217;m a first timer, and he mentioned the site, to me and have been reading a lot on here, seems like good stuff. I know the last post by jstarks11 was on Jan 2011 but can any of you guys let me know if things are still going well to date? Also I have a post in the "pictures of our members" section titled "fat% ?, and advice?" if any of you venture that way and look and read my little blurp and see the all natural pic up to date any positive and negative feedback and help will be greatly appreciated, Thanks guys!!
ski10804life
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Just got a PM from Jumpinjeff, thanks for sending it, and or anyone else who gives advice, Anotehr thing if you guys on here dont mind checking out a thread i started, kinda explains my situation and what i want and stuff, any feedback would be awesome. steroidology.com/forum/pictures-our-members/624184-fat-advice.html
ski10804life
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ive been researching for quite sometime, even with close friends as a good recourse i am still tryign to find what would be best for me.
steroidology.com/forum/pictures-our-members/624184-fat-advice.html#post3056199
Guys any help would be much appriciated!
steroidology.com/forum/pictures-our-members/624184-fat-advice.html#post3056199
Guys any help would be much appriciated!
ski10804life
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Even if you take somthing, and as a novice even i know that it takes a long time of training and biulding before your ready. two years ago i was 174 and ripped, im 6'2" i wasnt ready, not im 195 all natural and still cut, i dont even know if im ready yet. Not sure what your comment about golds gym means but its not like your going to go on a cycle then reach your goal and stop lifting and stay that way so your still going to have to pay for a gym membership. Take your time, trust me i ahve and im still not sure if im there.
ski10804life
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i by no means have the knowlage to really know what im talking about considering after 7 years of training and now researching for the past half a year, 2 years is not long enough, you can still make gains naturally before your turn to somthing else.
ski10804life
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and im not talking about giving it 3/4 in the gym you need to go in there have the right diet, the right mentality, and lift like your posessed. I wanted to go on after 3 years of training hard in college, my one friend said no way man your not ready you will uhurt yourself.
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